Best bespoke shirts

I've bought Charvet ready-to-wear for quite a while now and have on occasion passed through the hallowed third floor of their place vendome shop..

My question is simple. Who makes the best bespoke shirts?

Turnbull & Asser spring to mind from the Jermyn St. contingent. As for the Italians, am I right in thinking that Brioni, Borelli et al. are more made-to-measure than bespoke?

Anyway, thoughts please.

sorry to highjack but i had wondered the same, also any opinions/experience on ascog chang bespoke ?

also asking what is the best is a dangerous question here hierarcy is a better way of posing the question

If you like Charvet OTR I'm sure you'll love the MTM or bespoke program.

If you go the Italian route I'd pick Finamore since these fora seem to have nice reviews and the pics are great.

The prices for the above i'm sure are $400 and above.

I use Ascot Chang and am very pleased. Supposedly, they make the bespoke shirts for Brioni.

The best is subjective.

Bespoke shirts vary in quality? Is that the Poincarà conjecture? (Heh. Just a little science joke there.)

Anyway, I agree. I've used several bespoke shirtmakers and have found the quality to vary widely, sometimes in surprising ways. For example, I've had T&A shirts not hold up well, but shirts from a small shirtmaker who operates out of his Manhattan apartment last considerably longer. This may have to do with the kind of fabric chosen, because both were made well.

Sadly, all but a few are worn to hell now. Time to order a few swatches.

Originally Posted by dragon8

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If you like Charvet OTR I'm sure you'll love the MTM or bespoke program.

If you go the Italian route I'd pick Finamore since these fora seem to have nice reviews and the pics are great.

The prices for the above i'm sure are $400 and above.

I use Ascot Chang and am very pleased. Supposedly, they make the bespoke shirts for Brioni.

The best is subjective.

Thats very interesting to know. I've been told that I should expect to pay between $750-1200 for Charvet bespoke which now seems a little over the odds. Having said that, place vendôme is very convenient for me to get to and I have been very impressed with the pattern matching and stitching consistency on my OTR shirts.

Will certainly look into Finamore and Ascot Chang. Obviously I've heard of Brioni but I find their brand a little hard to grasp. Are they essentially high-end mass market?

I agree there is a good deal of subjectivity involved but usually there is some convergence to a consensus.

Originally Posted by Sazerac

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Bespoke shirts vary in quality? Is that the PoincarÃ

conjecture? (Heh. Just a little science joke there.)

Anyway, I agree. I've used several bespoke shirtmakers and have found the quality to vary widely, sometimes in surprising ways. For example, I've had T&A shirts not hold up well, but shirts from a small shirtmaker who operates out of his Manhattan apartment last considerably longer. This may have to do with the kind of fabric chosen, because both were made well.

Sadly, all but a few are worn to hell now. Time to order a few swatches.

haha good one! For extra science points, spot the Bayesian conditionalization reference in my above reply.

Suprised that T&A aren't all that. I'm guessing that Jermyn St. is not what it used to be. I know they are principally robemakers but I heard Ede & Ravenscroft also do bespoke shirts? Not sure if anyone has experience of them or even if that is true.

Don't get me wrong. I've been impressed with the T&A wares, it's just that they lasted maybe four or five years of regular use whereas those of my Manhattan shirtmaker lasted seven or eight. Again, it may be the fabrics that are to blame, not the quality of manufacture.

kabbaz

Originally Posted by indesertum

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kabbaz

But he has a 10 shirt minumum and its about $1000 each shirt

Kabbaz is the best.

Or in the top twenty.

Originally Posted by indesertum

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kabbaz

Originally Posted by F. Corbera

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Kabbaz is the best.

Thank you. Finally the truth surfaces.

Originally Posted by teddieriley

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Thank you. Finally the truth surfaces.

His underwear is off the charts.

Originally Posted by dragon8

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But he has a 10 shirt minumum and its about $1000 each shirt

plebes dont deserve the best

Originally Posted by indesertum

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plebes dont deserve the best

Plebes are West Point, you pleb.

Originally Posted by indesertum

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plebes dont deserve the best

He's out of my range.

plebes dont deserve the recognition of proper spelling