Lateness/tardiness policies...

I didn't see a problem until you mentioned that he leaves for breakfast after arriving late to work. With a start time of 9 a.m., I'm not sure how you couldn't squeeze breakfast into your agenda prior to going on the clock.

It's a struggle for me to get to work by 8 a.m. each morning, but the few times I've had to go in at 9 a.m. have been an entirely different story. That hour makes all the difference for me. I'm something of a troll when I get up early enough to make it to work by 8 a.m. I'm a fuckin' delight if I get that extra hour, though.

I usually don't sweat coming in 10-15 minutes late, though, since most of my co-workers make a daily coffee run an hour into the workday, anyway.

For most roles, it's ultimately about output, not input (acknowledging that in some cases, like a production line, output and input are directly related).

I don't really care if someone on my team shows up an hour late every day if their work product consistently meets or exceeds expectations. Likewise, I don't care if somebody works 80 hours a week - if their work product consistently underperforms, they're going on a PIP.

If everybody has clear goals and they're meeting them, it shouldn't matter how much effort they're putting in. Your issue seems to be one of underperformance, rather than one of effort.

Originally Posted by holymadness

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Flex time all the way. The best job I ever had let me show up any time between 8:30 and 9:30 and leave 8 hours later. Employee gratitude = productivity.
Agreed. As long as deadlines are being met with work that exceeds client expectations on a consistent basis, who cares.

just expand his workload to the point that he cant do it anymore if he doesnt show up in time. If he allready lacks, which it sounds like, ass ----> street.

Why is this so difficult? If you want him to be responsible for the hours he's working, either A) dock his pay for the time that he has missed during the day or B) make him work an equivalent x amount of hours i.e. he was late 30 minutes then he's got to stay late for 30 minutes.

I have a zero tolerance policy for lateness. If I can wake ****** up, beat the traffic and the elements and get there at the sound of the bell ready to go, so can you.

Every place I have worked, the chronic latecomers never advanced.

Originally Posted by SpooPoker

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I have a zero tolerance policy for lateness. If I can wake ****** up, beat the traffic and the elements and get there at the sound of the bell ready to go, so can you.

My thoughts exactly.

i will take his job!

Make it so nobody starts work (or gets paid for it) until every employee makes it to the office, I don't know if it is legal to hold everyones time like that but peer pressure will set him straight very quickly.

Originally Posted by Monaco

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Make it so nobody starts work (or gets paid for it) until every employee makes it to the office, I don't know if it is legal to hold everyones time like that but peer pressure will set him straight very quickly.
That's pretty good

I worked for a startup custom automotive shop, from inception to change of ownership. The workday started at 8am, I was usually 15 minutes early and while the day officially 'ended' at 4:30 it usually ended anytime from 6:30 to 8.

The position I was in allowed me to hire a few interns and they were all pretty excited to be there and had no issues with the schedule. Some of the experienced hires did have issues with the schedule and they quickly found out that working for a startup wasnt for them.

Some of the guys were late for personal reasons, that's fine as long as it isnt just late for the sake of being late.

Originally Posted by edmorel

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For every minute he is late, make him row the slave ship for an extra 10 minutes. And cut back on his food rations for gods sake!



Personally, i'd say it depends on field. I'm paranoid that some system will crash if i'm late, so i try not to be, but i'm often doing work late at night and my boss knows it so i don't worry about it too much either. I also don't really take my lunches.

Originally Posted by SpooPoker

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If I can wake ****** up, beat the traffic and the elements and get there at the sound of the bell ready to go, so can you.

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some of you guys need to start implementing "blue collar " policies. ive worked at places where you had a 5 min grace period. after that it was a point. x amount of points in a week, month, and year would equal suspension/termination. what spoo said is 100% correct, except for the zero tolerance part. i dont care for ZT policies.

Originally Posted by GQgeek

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Personally, i'd say it depends on field. I'm paranoid that some system will crash if i'm late, so i try not to be, but i'm often doing work late at night and my boss knows it so i don't worry about it too much either. I also don't really take my lunches.
Thank god for doggie bags.

Originally Posted by SpooPoker

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I have a zero tolerance policy for lateness. If I can wake ****** up, beat the traffic and the elements and get there at the sound of the bell ready to go, so can you.

Every place I have worked, the chronic latecomers never advanced.

Agreed. In my line of work if I show up late I get fined. With that type of policy I can assure you they will show up on time. Now I know this will only work in the military, but it sure changed my ways.