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The Official Wine Thread

gomestar

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but moving on guys, can we just forget the bullshit talk? Yes, somebody said this, and then somebody said that - can we end it? This thread has been a great example of hundreds of pages of great discussion between seasoned wine people and the noobs with no pretention and no arguments. It would be a tremendous disapointment to see it change at this point.
 

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Originally Posted by gomestar
but moving on guys, can we just forget the bullshit talk? Yes, somebody said this, and then somebody said that - can we end it? This thread has been a great example of hundreds of pages of great discussion between seasoned wine people and the noobs with no pretention and no arguments. It would be a tremendous disapointment to see it change at this point.
Seems we have a new troll who's whole purpose in life is to ensure that doesn't happen. Somehow I dont think he's finished with his little game.
 

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Originally Posted by Petrus1
There are no Pomerols that are 100% merlot.

Really? You need to tell this to the people who make the wines, they will be surprised.

reason that you're all fixated on grape varities
Really? You personally know the reasons in my own head why I am "fixated" on certain things? How? ESP?

BTW, I am not "fixated" on varietals. Someone else asked about a varietal and I told him where he could get the kind he was asking about, in a wine that was not labeled as such. That's all.

You are vox without the subtelty and wit.
 

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I'm glad Petrus is posting here. He seems to know a lot. Unfortunately I don't know enough to determine the accuracy of it.
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gomestar

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Originally Posted by Petrus1
There are no Pomerols that are 100% merlot.

Originally Posted by Manton
Really? You need to tell this to the people who make the wines, they will be surprised.

The Petrus vineyard is noted for its rich, dark clay soils, less gravelly than that in some neighbouring estates such as La Fleur-PÃ
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trus, Cheval Blanc and Figeac. These soils sit on the Petrus boutonnière (or Petrus button), a mound 40 metres above sea level; rather a modest rise, you might say, but the highest point in the appellation nevertheless. Underneath there is a thick seam of iron-rich subsoil known as crasse de fer which characterises some Pomerol vineyards such as Taillefer, where it even contributes to the name. The vines are 95% Merlot and 5% Cabernet Franc although it is not the norm for the latter to be incorporated into the blend, so today the wine is usually pure Merlot.
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Ch. Petrus

Originally Posted by why
I'm glad Petrus is posting here. He seems to know a lot. Unfortunately I don't know enough to determine the accuracy of it.
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Originally Posted by Petrus1
I forgot that I was dealing neophytes here and have to explain everything although I try to keep it very simple. I was referring to to the malolactic fermentation.Carbonic maceration is something else. A newly made made like BN hasn't even completed its malo yet.

Lulz. Carbonic maceration circumvents the need for a maloactic fermentation, per Jancis Robinson in my The Oxford Companion to Wine (the exact reason BN can/is released so young).

BOOM! Team Piob ftw.

@edgar, given your parameters, try 2007 Perrin & Fils Côtes du Rhône Reserve. Had a bottle with dinner last night, Trader Joe's, $9.99.
 

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So what are ya'll planning on drinking for Thanksgiving?
 

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Originally Posted by Johnny_5
So what are ya'll planning on drinking for Thanksgiving?

I think I will have some 2000 v Champagne from a tiny little producer, a Sonoma chard from 2005 and a '97 Burgess.

BTW, AF Gros 2004 1er Cru =
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Manton, thanks for reminding me of the 97 Burgess. I just added that to the list.

We are not cooking this year but headed to some friends. I'm bringing a magnun of 07 Sea Smoke Chard and now the Burgess.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
I think I will have some 2000 v Champagne from a tiny little producer, a Sonoma chard from 2005 and a '97 Burgess. BTW, AF Gros 2004 1er Cru =
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Originally Posted by Piobaire
Manton, thanks for reminding me of the 97 Burgess. I just added that to the list. We are not cooking this year but headed to some friends. I'm bringing a magnun of 07 Sea Smoke Chard and now the Burgess.
Is this the '97 Burgess that everyone in the thread was smart enough to buy on WTSO but myself? Also guys, as some of the OG wine thread members know, I'm not very versed in French wine. I'm looking for some stuff that will pair well with the typical Thanksgiving dinner. Can anyone help a brother out? Thanks John (Team Pio)
 

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Originally Posted by Mark from Plano
Exactly. What a bunch of snobs we seem to have attracted. Sheesh.
Whoa, I certainly didn't expect to be labeled a snob for recommending cru-Beaujolais over nouveau, but I do apologize for offending you!

It seems that I may have stepped in the middle of some ongoing dispute between a number of you folks, and that's not at all where I like to find myself. If it's not too late, I think I'll just attempt to gracefully withdraw from this conversation and retreat back to lurking. But please know that I had no intention of offending anyone.
 

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Originally Posted by gomestar
which 1er?

Can't remember. I still have the bottle.
 

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Had some good EYE-TIES last night... barolo, amarone..

First time drinking an amarone, seemed powerful... the restaurant owner gave us another bottle to take home. Will try it again sometime soon..
 

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