The fine line between dressing like an old man and a sharp GQ/Esquire guy.

Originally Posted by Reevolving

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Well, that's the irony of the year then,
b/c everything I know about clothing, I've learned from SF in the last 9 months !
(And books by Flusser, Manton, Vass, Roetzel, et al)

I'm not trying to be fashionable, hip, or younger than I am.
Recall the subtitle of Flusser's "Dressing the Man" book.
That is the driving principle of this entire thread.

again ... everything you learn from all those books, SF etc should be used in context to your physique and personal style. you act like you don't spend a second in WAYWRN. if you don't maybe you should. there are people older than you, who dress better than you ... with no attempt to look older or younger.

if you like it the way you, then don't make a thread. i can see a Millionaire Teacher meltdown coming soon.

clothes have to FIT ... and your clothes DONT.

^^+1, I dont care whether those pants are Incotex or Mabitex slim ones. They dont fit YOU and thats the bottomline. A lot of members wear trousers which are looser but fall and look much better

uppity

For your reference, here's what a model in a slim-fitting Zara suit looks like:



And this is what you look like:



Note that the Zara look by no means is unattainable IRL, as you previously hinted at. In fact, that is how most young men in suits look like in this neck of the woods.

Originally Posted by niidawg3

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clothes have to FIT ... and your clothes DONT.

Holy ****, this statement alone should be reposted as many hundreds of times as is necessary to get Reevolving to shut up and listen.

Reevolving: I don't care if Flusser told you to wear X. When he told you to wear X, he assumed you'd be wearing a well-fitting version of X. Fit is everything. You can't blame Flusser, Roetzel, this board, or anyone else for your sartorial failures anymore than you can blame a cookbook for a recipe you didn't follow properly.

Good style starts with good fit. All the Kiton, Brioni, Attolini, Edward Green, etc. in the world won't save you from poor fit. Get thee to a tailor and stop trolling this board.

The biggest problem with your "algorithm" is that the individual is a variable, not a constant. You need to adjust for you.

Originally Posted by Reevolving

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Originally Posted by Reevolving

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Maybe going bespoke could help.




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Originally Posted by Eason

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It's
because
you
learned
about
clothes
from
Men's
Clothing

and
never
developed
your
own
sense
of
style
or
taste

Ahhahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah.

Originally Posted by aj_del

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^^+1, I dont care whether those pants are Incotex or Mabitex slim ones. They dont fit YOU and thats the bottomline. A lot of members wear trousers which are looser but fall and look much better




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Originally Posted by Eason

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It's
because
you
learned
about
clothes
from
Men's
Clothing

and
never
developed
your
own
sense
of
style
or
taste

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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I couldn't have put it better myself! A picture says more than a thousand words.

Originally Posted by bringusingoodale

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Again, as I mentioned few posts earlier effectively this is endorsing the slim fit look that many on here consider "douchebaggy" or too GQ. Admit it, everyone on here furtively likes what GQ offers

No, there is a world of difference between the fit of the OP's jacket and the GQ slim/skinny fit. Within that world lies a good fit.

In this pic:


The fit looks similar to this older gentleman:


What you're looking for is something closer to this fit:

Originally Posted by TC (Houston)

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The key to me is the waist suppression. If you have this, you have a more youthful silhouette.

I guarantee you that he is comfortable, his clothes are not skin- or GQ-tight, and his wife is a thousand times hotter than the woman at the bar.

Funny, I actually think TC above looks more like the old man picture above than I do. (It's the old man colors and patterns) LOVE those shoes, though..
Yes, we've agreed that my jacket it not waist suppressed.
I believe neither my jacket and pants are quite as baggy as the red pocketsquare old man above (jacket protruding at the legs, particuarly)
I will take a picture of my jacket actually buttoned, b/c its a difficult comparison otherwise.

In terms of pants and shirts, we can disagree about how much room there is left for fine tuning. Yes, an inch off the waist. Maybe the shirts taken another inch in. But that's about it. Otherwise, my pants and shirts fit me pretty snugly, and I'm not going any slimmer. I wear clothing to an actual job that involves movement and sitting, not to my living room webcam. Big difference. I have a distinct feeling the people who are claiming my pants and shirt are too big have not taken a picture of themselves in a very long time.

That Zara suit looks great. It has that short female length that is now "cool" on SF. (That suit would have been ripped to shreds 3 months ago) Almost too great, in fact. I'd have to actually try the Zara fit become making a conclusion, but based on how tight my pants and shirts already fit, and the way that translates to photos, I truly don't think that model can do anything but stand there. If he sat down, I'd be the entire suit would explode or serve as a tourniquet.

The "bespoke" jacket above looks like an awful fit, and reinforces my point. He might look good standing there for a camera, but the minute he actually moves? ....Game over. If his arms attained horizontal, his jacket would tear. Useless jacket IRL.

Originally Posted by Schorsch

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his wife is a thousand times hotter than the woman at the bar.








Just sayin.

Originally Posted by Reevolving

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Funny, I actually think TC above looks more like the old man picture above than I do. (It's the old man colors and patterns) LOVE those shoes, though..
Yes, we've agreed that my jacket it not waist suppressed.
I believe neither my jacket and pants are quite as baggy as the red pocketsquare old man above (jacket protruding at the legs, particuarly)
I will take a picture of my jacket actually buttoned, b/c its a difficult comparison otherwise.

In terms of pants and shirts, we can disagree about how much room there is left for fine tuning. Yes, an inch off the waist. Maybe the shirts taken another inch in. But that's about it. Otherwise, my pants and shirts fit me pretty snugly, and I'm not going any slimmer. I wear clothing to an actual job that involves movement and sitting, not to my living room webcam. Big difference. I have a distinct feeling the people who are claiming my pants and shirt are too big have not taken a picture of themselves in a very long time.

That Zara suit looks great. It has that short female length that is now "cool" on SF. (That suit would have been ripped to shreds 3 months ago) Almost too great, in fact. I'd have to actually try the Zara fit become making a conclusion, but based on how tight my pants and shirts already fit, and the way that translates to photos, I truly don't think that model can do anything but stand there. If he sat down, I'd be the entire suit would explode or serve as a tourniquet.

The "bespoke" jacket above looks like an awful fit, and reinforces my point. He might look good standing there for a camera, but the minute he actually moves? ....Game over. If his arms attained horizontal, his jacket would tear. Useless jacket IRL.

You are poorly dressed, and will always look like **** because you can't take advice and lack the ability to recognize that you lack taste at the moment.