Heritage Clothing: Will it last?

Originally Posted by Fuuma

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It just means no one buys your charade but yourselves; if fashion is a feminizing activity you're as girly as everyone else even though you enjoy workwear.

this is a great quote, i hope everyone reads this aloud 10x

Originally Posted by shoreman1782

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What are the right reasons for being interested in fashion?

I'm usually surpicious of people who are into fashion but no the arts and other design disciplines, YMMV.

i hate architecture, but love art. Where do I fit in.

Originally Posted by zissou

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I'm not arguing against your point, but I've never understood why fashion is a feminizing activity. It's a sad state of affairs when being well dressed =/= masculine. It does seem to be the majority point of view at least here in the US.

It's only a feminizing activity if you think it is. I think what he was saying is that a lot of men who otherwise would pretend not to care about how they dress are using workwear/heritage clothing to make themselves feel better about dressing themselves up.

I hate fashion but I'm just here to try to pick up feminine gay dudes.

Originally Posted by Fuuma

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I'm usually surpicious of people who are into fashion but no the arts and other design disciplines, YMMV.

I pretty much agree as far as liking fashion for its own sake, but there are other reasons to be into clothes in some way or another. There are denimheads who found a thing they love and lavish attention on, which just happens to be a pair of jeans. Some people get into clothes as lifestyle tools as well, like skins or mediocores (keep it alive) who use it to fill in a part of their aspirational lifestyle.

There isn't anything wrong with any of those approaches, except when people start acting like theirs is the only valued approach.

I am quite new in the game, if you can say that, but what was the big thing before work wear? What did the work wear people wear in 2005, 2000, 1995? Maybe it's beacuse I live in small Norway, far from Tokyo and New York, but I don't see the big impact of this trend here.

The words created for these trends, and people repeating it over and over to describe their aesthetic or someone else's only dillutes its value, imo. Plus, I'd assume no one is trying to look like a carbon copy of said trend so I dunno why people insist on referring to **** by their trend name when the person might be trying to subtly add that to their aesthetic, but not necessarily encompass that trend.


Plus, it segregates people into these groups because of what they are putting on/buying because people want to pinpoint them into a trend, when maybe they aren't trying to buy into it but simply want some pieces to compliment their own personal aesthetic. Just food for thought.

Is this whole premise of people buying into workwear because its "manly" really true?

Atleast here (stockholm) theres alot of obvious "hipster" guys who usually arent afraid to be a little sexually ambigious who wear red wings, tight jeans, rolled watch caps and the whole deal. Often its combined with the very tidy hair cuts and preppy looks. I havent really gotten the feeling that "bros" are buying workwear.
It looks more like any fashion trend (used to be loud clubwear some years ago). Maybe this is a cultural difference, that being interested in clothes/fashion isnt stigmatized in the same way here as you describe it to be in the US.

Originally Posted by Fuuma

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It just means no one buys your charade but yourselves; if fashion is a feminizing activity you're as girly as everyone else even though you enjoy workwear.
I absolutely hate the fact that being interested in fashion is construed as feminine. I don't know how it got this way, but I believe it is the job of everyone who doesn't like this fact to stand up in the face of all the idiocy. Dressing yourself should be a point of pride and personal expression. And bros wear mad amounts of flannels and plaid, don't kid yourself.

Look at what you're saying, this is where all the animosity comes from. Here, let me add this then: in the same way that 'bros' wear plaid, more effeminate men may wear tight, sheer black tops and drapey costumey jackets with heels. The circle completes itself.

You can trace the origin of the workwear movement to the same insecurities that lead you to say that 'mad bros wear plaid,' you've just channeled it in a different way. It shouldn't matter, and if it does, why does it concern you what someone else is wearing if it brings them pleasure? This is all so stupid: no, your clothes and their intentions aren't better than mine or anyone else's.

On the topic of insecurities, I find it interesting that the only people saying that workwear doesn't make you any less feminine in your interest in clothing are those who don't like the trend. Why would anyone on this board think that? Get off that ******* high horse; you've been brainwashed by some good marketing. ****, and the only 'workwear' I've touched is Wings+Horns, if you'd even call it that.

Originally Posted by Brinbro

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On the topic of insecurities, I find it interesting that the only people saying that workwear doesn't make you any less feminine in your interest in clothing are those who don't like the trend. Why would anyone on this board think that? Get off that ******* high horse; you've been brainwashed by some good marketing. ****, and the only 'workwear' I've touched is Wings+Horns, if you'd even call it that.

lol, seriously?

people who think that the way you dress has a direct correlation with your sexuality are complete marsupials

^ sounds like an empirical question to me.

But really, isnt belief in relation between dress and sexuality the minority position on SF, and not directly relevant to the idea of heritage clothing.

^Doubtful. I hate to say it, but the vast majority of guys here seem to not be in interested in fashion for the sake of fashion itself, but rather to fit into a group. So, it's only logical for them to lump people into other groups (e.g., gay, mediocore, transvestite). Even guys who are truly interested in (i.e., slightly obsessed with) materials, construction, etc., are lumped into the group of 'girls trying to be guys'. Funny thing is, I'm obsessed with materials, construction, heritage, in just about every other aspect of my life whether it's restoring historic homes, vintage motorcycles, tools, bicycles, etc., but somehow with clothing, I'm just not allowed to be. I'm a poseur.