Official new iPhone 4

I couldnt even load web pages last week, but the past 2 days, it has been working rapid fire. Anyone else notice an improvement since Friday?

Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim

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Your bars are wrong.

Nope, they seem to be pretty damn accurate.

Originally Posted by imageWIS

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Nope, they seem to be pretty damn accurate.

Actually they aren't. Apple just admitted that their signal display is "totally wrong". So while I do hope you have zero problems with your phone just know Apple is releasing a software fix to display accurate signal strength. They implemented a software fix in fall 2008 which in retrospect we now realize was the start of their false signal representation.

They **** the bed here by fooling us all back then and now pretending like they are shocked it's been "wrong all along".

Originally Posted by blairh

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Actually they aren't. Apple just admitted that their signal display is "totally wrong". So while I do hope you have zero problems with your phone just know Apple is releasing a software fix to display accurate signal strength. They implemented a software fix in fall 2008 which in retrospect we now realize was the start of their false signal representation.

They **** the bed here by fooling us all back then and now pretending like they are shocked it's been "wrong all along".

From my experience so far with the phone, it has been pretty accurate. Maybe most iPhone 4 users have signal strength representation issues, but I don't. My post was only a reflection of my experiences, thus YMMV.

So is this a hardware issue or a software issue?

I can see why Apple would strongly prefer to blame it all on a software issue. A hardware issue would be a nightmare to deal with.

Originally Posted by SirSuturesALot

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So is this a hardware issue or a software issue?

I can see why Apple would strongly prefer to blame it all on a software issue. A hardware issue would be a nightmare to deal with.

Not really, they just need to give bumpers away for free.

Originally Posted by imageWIS

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From my experience so far with the phone, it has been pretty accurate.
Jon, this is asinine. Why are you arguing something you can't possibly know what the **** you are talking about? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. That **** is spreading like herpes around here. For your statement to be true you would need to know several things: How to recode your iPhone's OS, incorporating a new mathematical algorithm into the software that uses data read from the antenna to create an arbitrary signal strength ranking. What formula AT&T recommends for signal strength to bars ratio, and what they deem "accurate". (according to Apple, your phone does not currently do this) what your ambient effective signal strength range is. I know how smart you are and are not. And you are not that smart. Unless you are running a custom coded iPhone, Apple just told you yesterday that *********** up the coding on your phone, (I believe it's included in the category "All iPhones") and that it's inaccurate. Now you are arguing with them. Well guess what, they are going to fix it for you anyways, whether you like it or not.

And it's still marsupialed and won't fix the problem. Edit: I guess Apple could be lying. Is that what you are telling us Jon? Is that Apple is lying to it's consumers?

i have a definite dead zone in my house with any cellphone. with the iphone 4 i can actually make/receive calls from there, which i couldn't do with my old nokias and iphone 2g. But if i do the grip of death the call will drop.

if i'm in a normal signal area my normal "grip of death" (i'm left handed) won't drop calls. the signal is robust.

i bet they just coat the metal piece with that laminate thats in street signs or something for future models. it should be an easy enough fix hardware wise even a band aid solution like transparent tape over the metal piece might work.

i'm more afraid of the glass on the back and front. its going to be super ******* slippery in winter with gloves on... all the times i've dropped my old 2g was when i had gloves on in the winter.

Originally Posted by imageWIS

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From my experience so far with the phone, it has been pretty accurate. Maybe most iPhone 4 users have signal strength representation issues, but I don't. My post was only a reflection of my experiences, thus YMMV.
I really don't want to argue but this is 100% false. All iPhone's currently suffer from inaccurate signal representation. Apple is pretending like they just realized this but in reality they most likely inflated the bars via a software update in fall of 2008. However, you may still find yourself getting the same amount of bars even after the new software update. My belief is that the current misrepresentation inflates the bars in less coverage (say 3 or less). Giving early adopters free bumpers is absolutely not a solution. You can't just hand a consumer a case for their new phone and expect they will be okay with this. For starters a lot of consumers don't want to place a piece of rubber around their beautiful new phone. And more importantly handing out bumpers means Apple is admitting their initial product was flawed to begin with. So if that was the case they'd also be forced to swap your phone for a new one if you refuse the new bumper. It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out. Do they simply coat the antenna for all future models? (the black ones that people are now waiting for, the white ones that have yet to be released). There is a lot of confusion out there right now. In due time Apple will have to come up with something. All these Youtube videos of early adopters posting their antenna issues is a nightmare for Apple. People, like myself, who were planning on upgrading are having serious doubts now. As for the glass structure. I think Apple sacrificed durability for beauty. Yes, Gorilla Glass is badass and awesome, but it still looks very fragile to me and a backing of aluminum (like the first model) would have been much better. The Droid X may not be as pretty as the iPhone but at least if I'd drop it and it landed on its backing I'd be semi-confident it wouldn't break. Can't say that about iPhone 4.

Originally Posted by imageWIS

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Not really, they just need to give bumpers away for free.

Originally Posted by blairh

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Giving early adopters free bumpers is absolutely not a solution. You can't just hand a consumer a case for their new phone and expect they will be okay with this. For starters a lot of consumers don't want to place a piece of rubber around their beautiful new phone. And more importantly handing out bumpers means Apple is admitting their initial product was flawed to begin with. So if that was the case they'd also be forced to swap your phone for a new one if you refuse the new bumper.

Exactly.

Wait, so how do bumper fix the issue? I thought the reception issue was on the lower back side of the iphone?

Originally Posted by MetroStyles

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Wait, so how do bumper fix the issue? I thought the reception issue was on the lower back side of the iphone?

My guess is the bumper acts as an insulator between the sides of the phone and your hand.

Originally Posted by SirSuturesALot

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My guess is the bumper acts as an insulator between the sides of the phone and your hand.

You are right. Confirmed here.

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^ Given that test video, how can anyone claim this is a software issue? What does calibration of the bars have to do with the problem?