I have a jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - ask questions here.

Hi im new here and to the in depth world of denim in general. i am a fan of Levis 514s and 511s as well as some of their premium stuff but id like to get my feet wet in the ocean of raw denim.

with that being said i know that raw denim sizes are different from regular washed jeans. i usually wear 30-32 around the waist with 30 fitting tight, 31 feeling perfectly snug, and 32 requiring a belt. length wise 30 needs to be sagged a bit and 32 needs to be cuffed. im 5'8 and 135lbs. my favorite color jeans are dark blue (indigo?) and shades of gray.

now my questions, what brands to you guys suggest for a noob like me who doesnt wanna break the bank but wants respectable jeans to start off in? also, what sizing should i be looking in raw denim and the suggested jeans(if different brands run unique in sizing like shoes)?

much thanks in advance

i think you just asked us to sum up half of this board. i recommend you read the board and look at pics. When you have a specific brand you get into based on reports and the pictures and all that, read how people are sizing that brand.

a cross-brand fit chart could be compiled, but each brand can differ from model to model and from year to year.

by the way, i'm almost exactly your measurements. what are these premium brands you've already dipped into?

There is a thread all about sub $200 raw denim. Search for that then ask about the one or two pairs that really interest you so that people who actually own them can help you out a bit.

^ It's nice that that thread is still referenced...

http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=157881

thanks guys i'll check it out and see if i can come back with a more specific question if i dont find what im looking for in the suggested thread

I'm afraid the iPhone 4 is too thin and won't provide teh nice fadez. Help?

Originally Posted by connor

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i bought a pair of slim jims for my first pair of raws and i wish i got APCs instead. id do it

purchasing Grim Tims instead - more along the lines of the fit I want (slim like the Levi 511).

Originally Posted by ramuman

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I'm afraid the iPhone 4 is too thin and won't provide teh nice fadez. Help?

Symmetry is king so it shouldn't be a problem

...or you could just stick a condom in your coin pocket for attention

I am trying to decide on my first raw denims. I am looking at Eternal 811, Samurai S0500XX, Fullcount 1108, and Momotoro 703. Hoping someone could help me with how much these will stretch after the initial soak? Will they all stretch about an inch, or will one stretch more than the others? Thanks.

Originally Posted by halisray

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purchasing Grim Tims instead - more along the lines of the fit I want (slim like the Levi 511).

well if you like denim youll be disappointed

Originally Posted by connor

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well if you like denim youll be disappointed

I guess we'll soon find out - I am sure they are better than Levis and H&Ms

Originally Posted by halisray

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I guess we'll soon find out - I am sure they are better than Levis and H&Ms

But not as good as APC. Enjoy not taking advice.

Originally Posted by ConcernedParent

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But not as good as APC. Enjoy not taking advice.

He came in looking for Nudie help. No one helped him, they just told him to get apcs. Why are you surprised he's getting nudies?

The difference between Nudie and APC denim is negligible. They're both ******

The Dry Dirt Organic denim on the Grim Tims is pretty nice actually.