The WAYWT Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by KitAkira

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Stacks are often inappropriate except in strictly casual fits Actually, the Black Eyed Peas wear a ton of balla designer **** (whether they wear it well is debatable, but the kop is strong with them). And I think the short jeans are for hipsters into the cropped fad Fads are an integral part of fashion. Designers tend to cater to/form fads and if you wear designer items then you will also be part of a fad. Not necessarily a bad thing unless the fad is a bad one (baggy ass jeans of the 90s), it just is a characteristic of an era/generation. Fads generally swing from one extreme to the next, which is why the followers of the succeeding trend generally view the former fad as ridiculous /rant
I've never seen pictures of them. No reason to, I absolutely despise their music. I was more referring to how their music and popularity is likely going to be shorter lived than that of stacking or other clothing trends. I agree with everything you say in this. Also: I want Lanvins they are so baller but so expensive :<

Originally Posted by impolyt_one

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man, sq4, I like your enthusiasm for clothes and ****, but you gotta take all of the above in humor. The made in Italy sneakers that all came from that same sole design (MMM, Raf, Balenciaga, Lanvin, CP, KVA, etc, etc) probably came out of a huge factory like Manifattura Fatturese, who churn those bitches at like $30/pair unit price max, and all of those shoes feature comparable materials/detailing level. It's why you see certain ones go on deep clearance, so that shops can collect back on line price, and they only pay like $100 for them sometimes, so the retail is more a function of how the brand needs to prop itself up, CP's are like half of what Lanvins cost.

You are right about the "old" lanvin soles. They were the same as current rafs, CPs, balenciaga, etc. Lanvin recently changed (aw08/09 were the last of the old I believe) their soles though and they are now exclusive to them (afaik). It wouldn't surprise me that they still get them on the cheap though. What clothing isn't marked up at least 300%? I don't know anyone that buys lanvin shoes at retail. My local guy gives me at least 30% off. Another dude that owns a womens store w lanvin told me cost on mens trainers is like 240. So yeah. We are still all getting ripped off. The same is true of aldens, balmain and RO tees. A large majority of the price ensures the stuff doesn't become ubiquitous. I was just enumerating their qualities. No way do CPs cost anywhere near 400 in materials.


Lanvin ~= Raf > balenciaga > mmm > CP.
Rick Owens are dope too but far less versatile IMO since they are so massive.
The only Dior homme ones I like are the Kris van assche ones w the bondage laces. The rest are too flashy like dsquared. Actual KvA's are cool too.

Listi. Pm me. I can hook you up.

Originally Posted by sq4you

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do you really need to think about this??? christ man. come on. soooo sick. those things will go with pretty much everything! they are way more luxe than the mmm high tops with the crappy gum soles. if you don't want those lanvins, share the link and ill insta-kop them so hard it will make jet's head spin around.
I wish I had $450 sneaker koppage power

i wish i had $200 sneaker power.
cmon cp sales.

Originally Posted by hendrix

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Man, if i saw any of these chunky as hi-tops in a store i'd think they're all terrible. It really surprises me when one pair is said to be frikken cool, and another similar (to my eyes) pair is said to be terrible.

This is actually simple and interesting to experience. You can easily run a group think on yourself and come out of the other end "feeling" the same sneakers everyone else does. Go to SuFu, start on page one of all the sneaker threads, and read several pages a day until you reach the end. That's all it takes. By the end, you, too, will be shouting "SICK!!" at all the *right* shoes and be dismissive of all the *wrong* shoes.

I've done this, it works.

Originally Posted by KitAkira

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Stacks are often inappropriate except in strictly casual fits.

And cuffs are not? And DENIM is not? Thanks for the lesson ^^

Originally Posted by sq4you

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you might pay a slight premium for the name Lanvin too. they are probably one of the most expensive designers you'll run into imo.

lol @ slight premium...

Originally Posted by jaac

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i wish i had $200 sneaker power. cmon cp sales.

Same thinking.

Originally Posted by db_ggmm

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And cuffs are not? And DENIM is not? Thanks for the lesson ^^
You said pants dumbshit, pants /= jeans

Originally Posted by KitAkira

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You said pants dumbshit, pants /= jeans

Dude, try to follow the conversation.

Originally Posted by sq4you

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You are right about the "old" lanvin soles. They were the same as current rafs, CPs, balenciaga, etc. Lanvin recently changed (aw08/09 were the last of the old I believe) their soles though and they are now exclusive to them (afaik). It wouldn't surprise me that they still get them on the cheap though. What clothing isn't marked up at least 300%? I don't know anyone that buys lanvin shoes at retail. My local guy gives me at least 30% off. Another dude that owns a womens store w lanvin told me cost on mens trainers is like 240. So yeah. We are still all getting ripped off. The same is true of aldens, balmain and RO tees. A large majority of the price ensures the stuff doesn't become ubiquitous. I was just enumerating their qualities. No way do CPs cost anywhere near 400 in materials.


Lanvin ~= Raf > balenciaga > mmm > CP.
Rick Owens are dope too but far less versatile IMO since they are so massive.
The only Dior homme ones I like are the Kris van assche ones w the bondage laces. The rest are too flashy like dsquared. Actual KvA's are cool too.

Listi. Pm me. I can hook you up.

Du, the molding toolwork and production on a pair of rubber soles for a pair of sneakers doesn't really require parting of the seas, look up there at the DBSS jawnz, those soles were made for that one style too, the original goatskin Reebok Jam-esque DBSS's had a different sole. I'd say a pair of soles costs like 50 cents in the production process, the only sneakers I can see being different would be the Ricks and the Ann D's, which require more hand finishing work (but probably not too much, they are pretty ingenious in terms of feasibility of design vs finished product as a concept) and then there are oddballs like the old Damir Doma 'sneakers' which weren't even sneakers at all.

It figures that cost on Lanvins is 240 at line, but they do have to fund a lot more **** (lavinz are the cash cows) whereas CP do not advertise and don't do anything more than photograph each new model in a white paper-lined shadowbox. CP is the ultimate hustle.

Anyway I just shot in a fairly low offer on them lanvinz which was accepted, which is sort of suspicious but we'll see if they arrive.

man why is everyone obsessed with lanvins, id rather buy sneakers from a brand that i would also buy clothes from (who buys lanvin clothes???) so i can pair the two

agreed, need some adidas x jeremy scott rainbow wings to go with my adidas x jeremy scott wing track jacket

haha that's awkward

hahaa @ aeglus

I only own two pairs of lanvin sneaks and two lanvin blazers.

Just have to chime in on the Lanvin discussion..
I recently got a pair of high tops (The white/grey ones from F/W 07), and they're just phenomenal shoes. To echo what Sq4 has been preaching:
The soles are really nice, never have I had a shoe with such a dominant step to them. The calf leather lining the inside is great, looks even better after wearing them for a few weeks. The outside is still very clean, and they have this shine to them, like they're outcasting lesser shoes..

@Listi, from university student to university student: Man, when I walk on campus with these, everytime I walk by people, I see them staring at my feet. Obviously if more people knew that I was walking around with shoes that cost more than their whole outfit, then they might be a little more inclined to say something. I'd only recommend them if you have a certain level of swagger to pull them off-but if you can wear that Yohji coat, you'll have no problem. They look great with tapered jeans tucked in - I'll try to post a fit pic today.
Only complaint is that I got a blister from walking in them too much on my left heel, but now that's not an issue, I had just never owned a pair of high tops, and my feet weren't used to it.
Now I just need to get a good leather, and I'll be happy (I'm looking at you, ToJ).

FW07 would've had old soles I believe. Ones above are (or were sold to me as, at least) FW09-10.