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Why Lesser has some hegemony on Savile row ?
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Dvid Lesser is still refusing to sell directly to uk based customers even if he told me his margins would be a lot better if he decided to do so...Originally Posted by lasbar
There is little incentive for him to sell direct. If you want Lessers you will buy it anyway albeit through the tailor. What is his upside? The vast majority of his business is with tailors making for people who have absolutely no interest in sourcing cloth themselves, and these tailors like the exclusivity - why destroy that USP?
Dvid Lesser is still refusing to sell directly to uk based customers even if he told me his margins would be a lot better if he decided to do so...Originally Posted by lasbar
There is little incentive for him to sell direct. If you want Lessers you will buy it anyway albeit through the tailor. What is his upside? The vast majority of his business is with tailors making for people who have absolutely no interest in sourcing cloth themselves, and these tailors like the exclusivity - why destroy that USP?Originally Posted by passingtime
I was wondering the same thing. If a UK customer wants it he can just ask his tailor to get it for him.
Does anyone want a proxy for Lesser since he agreed to sell it to me direct for I live in India
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I was wondering the same thing. If a UK customer wants it he can just ask his tailor to get it for him.Originally Posted by aj_del
Does anyone want a proxy for Lesser since he agreed to sell it to me direct for I live in India
A tailor would get it at a business rate and will be relunctant selling it back to you as he got a gentleman's agreement with Lesser...
It is a small world and people tend to talk to each other..
It is a catch 22 situation.....The tailors influenced the customers and order regularly vast amounts of fabrics making them essential for the merchants even if the margins are much lower than selling directly to me for example..
On the other hand ,the tailor needs a good relationship with te merchant to get the best deal possible..
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No tailor's markup? No middleman local distributor markup? Some tailors are unwilling to go to the effort of obtaining certain fabrics lest they offend their current suppliers?Originally Posted by apropos
Those are fine generic reasons but don't seem to apply to lasbar's case - hence my question, which was not a generic one. His tailors do have access to Lesser and they even seem to promote using them.
Also, sometimes I know I am going to want a certain cloth made up some day, but there is risk that it could run out. In such cases, I'd rather have a piece in my attic all ready to go.Originally Posted by Manton
That makes sense.
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Why exactly do you want to purchase cloth directly rather than simply ask your tailor to use it? Are you going to cut a suit yourself?Originally Posted by gdl203
They charged me an arm and a leg for it...
I'm talking about the Golden bale ...They got it for a certain amount and did apply a massive surcharge on top of it...
It is true that I wouldn't have been able to buy it at their trade prices but with the surcharge on top , it is becoming quite a bad deal.
I also like Manton love to stock some fabrics to use later on especially the golden bale with no stock left..
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They charged me an arm and a leg for it...Originally Posted by lasbar
I'm talking about the Golden bale ...They got it for a certain amount and did apply a massive surcharge on top of it...
It is true that I wouldn't have been able to buy it at their trade prices but with the surcharge on top , it is becoming quite a bad deal.
Would they be prepared to make up Lessers if you provided it? Some tailors don't care but others won't and those are more likely to complain to Lessers who will trace back the source if they can to stop it from happening again.
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Sorry to be that guy but you ALL have to retrain your brain's.
buying cut goods are ALWAYS going to be more expensive. When you go through a jobber there will always be an upcharge , that's business.
A few of the makers you are speaking about in this thread son't even make all of their own fabric. They have other mills do it for them.
The internet in this case is a bad thing. You want to be wholesalers without the over head and it's just not going to happen.
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Mauro
buying cut goods are ALWAYS going to be more expensive. When you go through a jobber there will always be an upcharge , that's business.
A few of the makers you are speaking about in this thread son't even make all of their own fabric. They have other mills do it for them.
The internet in this case is a bad thing. You want to be wholesalers without the over head and it's just not going to happen.
Best,
Mauro
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Sorry to be that guy but you ALL have to retrain your brain's.Originally Posted by Mauro
buying cut goods are ALWAYS going to be more expensive. When you go through a jobber there will always be an upcharge , that's business.
A few of the makers you are speaking about in this thread son't even make all of their own fabric. They have other mills do it for them.
I am not hung up on whether a firm makes their own fabric or not. It is far more important to me that at the end of the day the fabric is what I expect. Lessers are a good example of this; they don't make any fabric but they specify and check the product from the mills they use to ensure that the quality and finish is consistent with their specifications. If I am buying from Lessers I am after a certain look and quality - if they provide that then the details are of no concern to me.
More people need to realise that.
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It's not really true that you can NEVER save on cloth buying for yourself. Maybe it's not common, and it's arguably more trouble than it's worth. But certainly it can be done.Originally Posted by Manton
Also, it can make sense if your tailor is overseas and you see a cloth that you like that you don't know if he carries--or if you want to get a piece of cloth you think won't be available much longer and don't want to presently commit the funds necessary for a new jacket or suit order.
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