The OCBD collar roll thread

voxsartoria · Feb 8, 2010

Look how thick the contemporary BB collar is:

compared to the thin, soft, and floppy collar of old:

BBC, a shrinking collar was one of the common artifacts of continued wear. A lot of W.F. Buckley photos show this phenom, but it was a common thing among most of us who wore the old collar.

- B

srivats · Feb 8, 2010

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

Look how thick the contemporary BB collar is:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...an/OCBD1-1.jpg

compared to the thin, soft, and floppy collar of old:

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8922/bb002.jpg

BBC, a shrinking collar was one of the common artifacts of continued wear. A lot of W.F. Buckley photos show this phenom, but it was a common thing among most of us who wore the old collar.

Weren't the old BB collars compeltely unlined ? The newer ones definitely have some interlining ... don't know why.

I'll see if I can get a good pic of my Mercer collars with a tie on.

voxsartoria · Feb 8, 2010

Originally Posted by srivats

Weren't the old BB collars compeltely unlined ? The newer ones definitely have some interlining ... don't know why.

I'll see if I can get a good pic of my Mercer collars with a tie on.

I remember the old ones as being unlined. The BBBFs have a unfused interlining, similar I assume to other BB makes coming out of the Carolina factory.

- B

BBC · Feb 8, 2010

Thanks, Vox - great info.

Here's some more - I obviously enjoy vintage shirts

Later Made in USA Gant (heavily lined) with locker loop

mid-1990s BB pinpoint

Vintage Hathaway (made in usa) pinpoint

Vintage Sero

LE Hyde Park

BB pinpoint (made in USA)

late 1990s BB

srivats · Feb 8, 2010

BBC, the vintage Sero and Hathaway ones have very nice rolls. They both have a pleasing liberty-bell shape to it with the tie that I really like. The LE hyde park is not bad either.

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

I remember the old ones as being unlined. The BBBFs have a unfused interlining, similar I assume to other BB makes coming out of the Carolina factory.

The only problem with BBBF is that the fabric is so beefy - maybe that is what is causing the "Eye-talian" look that Doc mentions. However, I like them for tie-less wear under a sweater.

Here is a pic of a recent J. Press collar - from An affordable wardrobe. J. Press shirts are heavily fused. But notice the location of the buttonhole on the collar points.

I *think* the below shirt is a older BB - notice location of buttonholes, and how floppy the collar is. Vox/BBC, what do you guys think?

comrade · Feb 8, 2010

Here is a pic of a recent J. Press collar - from An affordable wardrobe. J. Press shirts are heavily fused. But notice the location of the buttonhole on the collar points.

As a disinterested party, who has not worn a BD since circa 1970, but who
was a fanatic about roll during the IVY Golden years of the 50s and the 60s,
the J Press shirt above exemplifies what I insisted upon, before I moved on
to different collars.

GuidoWongolini · Feb 8, 2010

fritzl · Feb 8, 2010

Originally Posted by srivats

I *think* the below shirt is a older BB - notice location of buttonholes, and how floppy the collar is. Vox/BBC, what do you guys think?

i think it's too tight. nice buttons, btw

crazyquik · Feb 8, 2010

Manton's CEGO nails it for me.

One of my fave Brooks shirts was a popover, without dress shirt sizing (just small, medium, or large). Ha a great collar. Discontinued, of course.

Parker · Feb 8, 2010

Those wider spread/longer Italian BD collars have grown on me. I used to think they looked weird.

DocHolliday · Feb 8, 2010

Originally Posted by Parker

Those wider spread/longer Italian BD collars have grown on me. I used to think they looked weird.

edmorel · Feb 8, 2010

CEGO (my head is not that big!! It is camera distortion)

Parker · Feb 8, 2010

Originally Posted by DocHolliday

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/jadeb_/jeeves.jpg

I know. Don't shoot me, Doc. I'm weak for the Italian stuff.

itsstillmatt · Feb 8, 2010

Originally Posted by edmorel

CEGO (my head is not that big!! It is camera distortion)

You look so white in that picture, Ed.

edmorel · Feb 8, 2010

Originally Posted by iammatt

You look so white in that picture, Ed.

i'm using that whitening skin cream.

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