The Official MMA thread

The MMA awards are live on versus.com right now

Anyone who feels like staying up until 12:00 am (PST) can watch the K-1 new years show tonight. Should be good. Here is a stream: http://www.justin.tv/xxmtv#r=teWsbQ0

Originally Posted by NorCal

Click to expand...

Anyone who feels like staying up until 12:00 am (PST) can watch the K-1 new years show tonight. Should be good.
Here is a stream:
http://www.justin.tv/xxmtv#r=teWsbQ0

isnt it gonna be like 7 hours long?

Originally Posted by shellshock

Click to expand...

isnt it gonna be like 7 hours long?

Yep, I'm giving up after two hours.

Originally Posted by millionaire75

Click to expand...

The MMA awards are live on versus.com right now

Holy shitballs, now there's an MMA awards show? Do they have Vegas-style dancers and 87 musical acts? Good Lord....

Originally Posted by Brian SD

Click to expand...

Did you stop watching? The end is amazing.

He sits there with his arm locked up for half the match.

^Do you not understand how a fight/wrestling/joint locks work?

Originally Posted by AndrewRyanWallace

Click to expand...

^Do you not understand how a fight/wrestling/joint locks work?

I do, just don't find them very entertaining.

Gegard fought?? Man I wish I could have seen this:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cag...urn=mma,211331

Originally Posted by Philip1978

Click to expand...

I do, just don't find them very entertaining.
Do you train or fight? I apologize if you do and if your comment comes out of experience rather than ignorance, but this is the type of attitude that makes me dislike casual fans. I have a striking background, but the clinch and ground game is remarkable, and really, the core strength of MMA. The striking at the top levels of MMA is subpar to similar levels in other sports - K-1, boxing, etc..., with few individual exceptions (** Penn, Shogun, Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, Moussasi, Fedor (who looks crazy and sloppy, but has great striking, nearly perfectly geared for MMA).) Edit: That transition from rubber guard to a very tight Oma Plata with the opposite leg across the body is pretty amazing and really makes the natural rollout escape nearly impossible. You don't even need the arm across the back, which is the usual way to prevent the escape. McCrory made a big mistake posting that arm so low on an accomplished 10th planet guy.

Originally Posted by LA Guy

Click to expand...

Do you train or fight? I apologize if you do and if your comment comes out of experience rather than ignorance, but this is the type of attitude that makes me dislike casual fans. I have a striking background, but the clinch and ground game is remarkable, and really, the strength of MMA.

Just a casual fan. I understand it takes great skill, just from my perspective not very entertaining.

Originally Posted by Philip1978

Click to expand...

Just a casual fan. I understand it takes great skill, just from my perspective not very entertaining.

I think that it's a matter of education, then. I think that MMA (and any of its constituent parts) is one of those sports that, the more you really understand about it (especially through practice,) the more interesting it becomes. Actually, I think that if you just go to one BJJ class with an open mind, you'll be impressed by how technically interesting it really it. You're in Toronto, right? I think that there is a 10th planet school there.

Originally Posted by Philip1978

Click to expand...

Just a casual fan. I understand it takes great skill, just from my perspective not very entertaining.

Originally Posted by LA Guy

Click to expand...

I think that it's a matter of education, then. I think that MMA (and any of its constituent parts) is one of those sports that, the more you really understand about it (especially through practice,) the more interesting it becomes. Actually, I think that if you just go to one BJJ class with an open mind, you'll be impressed by how technically interesting it really it. You're in Toronto, right? I think that there is a 10th planet school there.


I'm a casual fan too, I guess, though I perfectly understand the technical aspect of the fights and appreciate the expertise that goes into them.

From an experience point of view, I never respected competitive fighters very much at all until a few years back I went a few rounds (boxing) with one of Paquiao's camp students who I contracted to give me a few personal training sessions (it was fairly cheap). I never before experienced fatigue like that. My heart and lungs felt like they were going to jump out of my chest (and these were just 3 minute rounds - and he wasn't fighting back). It was pretty much only after that that I knew what kind of condition you have to be in to do any kind of competitive fighting, and in relation to which I was just a lackluster lard-ass. It was a good experience though.


They also have an x-treme couture in TO, though I don't know the reputability of the franchise.

Originally Posted by Slopho

Click to expand...

Gegard fought?? Man I wish I could have seen this:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cag...urn=mma,211331

And with the magic of the interwebz you still can:
http://kimjudas.blogspot.com/

Originally Posted by somatoform

Click to expand...

From an experience point of view, I never respected competitive fighters very much at all until a few years back I went a few rounds (boxing) with one of Paquiao's camp students who I contracted to give me a few personal training sessions (it was fairly cheap). I never before experienced fatigue like that. My heart and lungs felt like they were going to jump out of my chest (and these were just 3 minute rounds - and he wasn't fighting back). It was pretty much only after that that I knew what kind of condition you have to be in to do any kind of competitive fighting, and in relation to which I was just a lackluster lard-ass. It was a good experience though.

The conditioning for every sport is quite different. For example, we had discussion a few dozen pages back about fighters running, and how a 45 minute run every day was taxing on the heavyweight fighters. When I was running middle and long distances, I'd regularly clock 40-50 miles a week. These days, I can still run a whole lot more than most fighters, and my sprints are better than most fighters, and my cardio is on the better side, but there are guys who can go round after round after round more than me, and some of these guys couldn't run 5 miles to save their lives, and definitely not at anything approaching competitive speeds. But, you take even a pretty good runner, and put them through the paces of an average fight gym, and they would probably die, because the up-and-down motions never let you get a rhythm in your breathing the way runners are used to.

Yeah, people who laugh at other guys gassing in a fight usually couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. They'd probably faint from the adrenaline dump 30 seconds in.