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Everyone knows a seamless wholecut can't be made.Originally Posted by grimslade
There are seams, but they're placed quite cleverly.
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st crispins vs vass
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There are seams, but they're placed quite cleverly.
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Originally Posted by Wrigglez
Everyone knows a seamless wholecut can't be made.Originally Posted by grimslade
Easy!.........(for those who can).
The damp (or even wet) leather gets pulled over the last and fixed with nails underneath. before anything is cut out of the hide. While the leather dries, it "˜memorizes' the shape. That process is called "˜blocking'(English), or "˜crimping' (American').
Here is the trial (from a waste section) to see how that particular leather reacted:
And here are the finished uppers:
Holy ******* ****!!!!Originally Posted by Chips
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Easy!.........(for those who can).Originally Posted by bengal-stripe
The damp (or even wet) leather gets pulled over the last and fixed with nails underneath. before anything is cut out of the hide. While the leather dries, it "˜memorizes' the shape. That process is called "˜blocking'(English), or "˜crimping' (American').
Here is the trial (from a waste section) to see how that particular leather reacted:
Why don't more people do it this way?
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Both look great.
bengal-stripe, who made those wholecuts?
bengal-stripe, who made those wholecuts?
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Is there anything more sexy in the world than a seemless wholecut?Originally Posted by fcuknu
Originally Posted by Wrigglez
Holy ******* ****!!!!Originally Posted by Chips
There are seams, but they're placed quite cleverly.Originally Posted by Cravate_Noire
The seams are in the inner side which conveniently not being shown.
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Everyone knows a seamless wholecut can't be made.Originally Posted by grimslade
You can make exactly four from every cow.
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OMG someone got it!
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I own both and would give an edge to St Crispin on leather quality, finish and overall construction. I'd give Vass the nod on lasts (haven't found a SC last as attractive as U), customer service and value for money.Originally Posted by gdl203
They're about the same. I really like SC's classic last, but I also like all the Vass lasts, each in their own way.
SC is a bit lighter on the foot.
As for service, I've only bought Vass at retail (at Louis) or through the usual intermediaries. For Saint Crispin's, I've dealt with Phillip Car directly (well, by email), and found him attentive, expert and a person who loves what he sells.
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Why don't more people do it this way?Originally Posted by Philip1978
Because a great many shoemakers are of the opinion that the enormous stress which lasts on the leather makes the resulting shoe less sturdy. Plus it's quite tricky to repair.
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Because a great many shoemakers are of the opinion that the enormous stress which lasts on the leather makes the resulting shoe less sturdy. Plus it's quite tricky to repair.Originally Posted by Sterling Gillette
I'll reserve my praise for the first seamless wholecut that is inclusive of a sole, sort of like a little bag that's tied around each foot.
I freely give this million dollar idea to Ron Rider.
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As for service, I've only bought Vass at retail (at Louis) or through the usual intermediaries. For Saint Crispin's, I've dealt with Phillip Car directly (well, by email), and found him attentive, expert and a person who loves what he sells.Originally Posted by voxsartoria
I have the inverse experience. Bought the SC via retailer and most of my Vass directly from the store. Although there has been one instance of a small QC issue, customer service was excellent and everything was resolved to my satisfaction.
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