Carlo Franco

rnoldh · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by jcriswel

Yes, I watched the Carlo Franco thing start up and crash... how long ago was it? It does appear Chuck and Jill are trying to give it another shot. If they are trying to revive this business, their apparent strategy of sticking to their besmirched brand name surprises me. I don't think you could buy a cup of coffee with $5.00 and the Carlo Franco name. This situation still boggles the imagination.

You could buy the coffee. You just wouldn't get it.

Same as the ties.

My sartorial aspirations are just not that high these days ( going in different directions ).

But I would like to get a Beamann or Westmanscott suit in 2010. Well, at least Westmannscott. With him at least you get something for your money. And a bargain it is. Ultimate Bespoke, of course.

KObalto · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by rnoldh

You could buy the coffee. You just wouldn't get it.

Same as the ties.

My sartorial aspirations are just not that high these days ( going in different directions ).

But I would like to get a Beamann or Westmanscott suit in 2010. Well, at least Westmannscott. With him at least you get something for your money. And a bargain it is. Ultimate Bespoke, of course.

Did you sign up for Westmanscoot's "7 Deadly Suit Wearing Sins"? I am now afraid I will inadvertently kill my self due to suit wearing ignorance!

mussel · Dec 29, 2009

Strange thing is that I've never ordered anything from them or even contacted them, yet, I got the same email. I suspected AAAC sold my email address to them.

FIHTies · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by mussel

Strange thing is that I've never ordered anything from them or even contacted them, yet, I got the same email. I suspected AAAC sold my email address to them.

A preposterous and unsubstantiated accusation. And I wont say more in this thread.

mussel · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by FIHTies

A preposterous and unsubstantiated accusation. And I wont say more in this thread.

I did receive the email. May be I jumped to conclusion too quickly. I don't know exactly how they got my email address, I just used process of elimination and AAAC seemed to be the most obvious.

P.S. Are you one of the Malindae?

FIHTies · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by mussel

I did receive the email. May be I jumped to conclusion too quickly. I don't know exactly how they got my email address, I just used process of elimination and AAAC seemed to be the most obvious. P.S. Are you one of the Malindae?
Ha, no I am not one of the Malindea

, but the implications of your Post was that is that AAAC and the actual administrators of the site, or those that had access to the email list may have benefited from selling that list which is something that Neither Andy nor any of the (current) moderators that would have access to the list would do. I am pretty sure that Andy himself got burned as well with this whole CF matter.

taxgenius · Dec 29, 2009

From AAAC

Makes you wonder.

Holdfast · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by jcriswel

Yes, I watched the Carlo Franco thing start up and crash... how long ago was it? It does appear Chuck and Jill are trying to give it another shot. If they are trying to revive this business, their apparent strategy of sticking to their besmirched brand name surprises me.

Given the lack of business sense that appeared to accompany the aforementioned crash & burn, restarting the business using the same name seems to be following in the same footsteps.

Anyway, IIRC, I used them just the once, and got my two ties. They're OK enough - though far from amazing - but I waited something in the order of a couple of months to receive them. I guess on balance I was lucky...

Given the history since then, I certainly would go nowhere near this business again, regardless of how much of a discount they'd care to offer.

FIHTies · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by taxgenius69

From AAAC Makes you wonder.
Nah...Gentlemanly behavior and a moderators attempt that all hell doesnt break loose as is wont in topics like this. I am 100% confident that the list was not sold or given to CF or to any of his team.

redtree00 · Dec 29, 2009

Pretty forgiving bunch the AAAC crowd.

Philip1978 · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by FIHTies

Ha, no I am not one of the Malindea

, but the implications of your Post was that is that AAAC and the actual administrators of the site, or those that had access to the email list may have benefited from selling that list which is something that Neither Andy nor any of the (current) moderators that would have access to the list would do. I am pretty sure that Andy himself got burned as well with this whole CF matter.

I thought you weren't going to say anymore.....................

FIHTies · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by Philip1978

I thought you weren't going to say anymore.....................

Nothing negative from me. Is there a halo smiley? There ought to be. Besides,

I

want

Audrey

back

just

as

much

as

the

guy.

JLibourel · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by taxgenius69

What bothers me is that none of this "buddies" on AAAC ever came out an admitted that guy was a fraud.

I never had the sense he was an outright fraud, just a poor businessman who let his enterprise crash and burn, leaving a lot of angry creditors (his customers) who never got their merchandise. Things like this happen every day.

redtree00 · Dec 29, 2009

Contact info

http://math2.eku.edu/newalumni/alumniinfo.asp?AlumID=76&DeptID='MAT'

marc237 · Dec 29, 2009

Originally Posted by JLibourel

I never had the sense he was an outright fraud, just a poor businessman who let his enterprise crash and burn, leaving a lot of angry creditors (his customers) who never got their merchandise. Things like this happen every day.

I concur. Also, my sense is that a number of personal issues went south very fast for Jill and Chuck. My sense is they were way over-extended in all arenas and they were not able to come up with a plan to address the mess and retreated. I have also thought this a shame since I personally liked Chuck and Jill and thought them nice folk.

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