What is the 'athletic' size?

dmash · Dec 14, 2009

Originally Posted by Rosenberg

disagree. this is pretty much a bodybuilder look. not necessarily an athletic look

Yeah, actually this would be true. There's actually some extremely athletic guys that only have about a 4" drop but can run a 25 mile marathon haha.

I was thinking more aesthetically pleasing.

wmmk · Dec 14, 2009

Personally I think about an 8 or 9 inch drop looks best, depending on height. Short guys with 12"+ drops always look kind of weird to me.

jwied82 · Dec 14, 2009

so drop is just the difference between chest circumference and waist circumference? Id seen it mentioned in several threads here but didnt know what it meant.

dmash · Dec 14, 2009

Originally Posted by wmmk

Personally I think about an 8 or 9 inch drop looks best, depending on height. Short guys with 12"+ drops always look kind of weird to me.

Short guys maybe....idk, Frank Zane imo has one of the best physiques in my opinion. He was 5'9 and had 50" chest and 29" waist competition time some years. that's a TWENTY ONE INCH drop. Not to **** this thread up at all but:

wmmk · Dec 14, 2009

Dude looks great like that, but for the purpose of filling out a suit (or even casual clothes), I feel he'd look awkward. His 21" drop is, nevertheless, pretty impressive.

Hangdog · Dec 14, 2009

I'll stop doing weighted pull-ups and just run long distance followed by some light calisthenics, then. Wouldn't want to look "awkward".

erdawe · Dec 14, 2009

8 seems to be a nice drop for those around average height, it's all relative however.

zoorado · Dec 14, 2009

Originally Posted by Hangdog

I'll stop doing weighted pull-ups and just run long distance followed by some light calisthenics, then. Wouldn't want to look "awkward".

Ha. I've been doing weighted pullups for some time. Now working on weighted one-arm pulls. Can't imagine getting Frank Zane's drop though. I'm probably genetically limited. That dude's waist can't possibly be 29", unless by waist you mean his pelvic girth.

I see more athlecism in long distance runners (and professionals in just about any other sports) than I do in bodybuilders.

jaydc7 · Dec 14, 2009

Originally Posted by dmash1080

Short guys maybe....idk, Frank Zane imo has one of the best physiques in my opinion. He was 5'9 and had 50" chest and 29" waist competition time some years. that's a TWENTY ONE INCH drop. Not to **** this thread up at all but:

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That's not athletic looking... its impressive, but I would never want that physique.

There's a big difference between athleticism and fitness, but the line is blurred.

dmash · Dec 14, 2009

Originally Posted by jaydc7

That's not athletic looking... its impressive, but I would never want that physique.

There's a big difference between athleticism and fitness, but the line is blurred.

That is definitely true. There are competition cyclists I know that are 5% bodyfat...yet bodybuilders I know at 8% bodyfat look more ripped than them. One could even argue that athleticism goes hand in hand with cardiovascular endurance.

One could ALSO argue that it's just raw talent. Professional lineman aren't athletic 'looking' but are amazing athletes.

I guess I sort of contradicted myself in this thread.

Hangdog · Dec 14, 2009

I think some of you are totally off your mark when you clamor about the lack of athleticism in bodybuilders. 275lb. modern roid monsters are one thing, but Marvin Eder, Steve Reeves and Reg Park were nothing if not VERY athletic. Mavin Eder could hold an iron cross.

Rosenberg · Dec 14, 2009

Originally Posted by Hangdog

I think some of you are totally off your mark when you clamor about the lack of athleticism in bodybuilders. 275lb. modern roid monsters are one thing, but Marvin Eder, Steve Reeves and Reg Park were nothing if not VERY athletic. Mavin Eder could hold an iron cross.

yeah, i see that as a major difference between old and new generations of bodybuilders. the guys today walk on stage at 290, but back then (forgive me, i can't think of his name) could do backflips holding like 30lb dumbbells or something like that. lots of the oldschool guys had some really athletic trick they could do

Rosenberg · Dec 14, 2009

Originally Posted by dmash1080

That is definitely true. There are competition cyclists I know that are 5% bodyfat...yet bodybuilders I know at 8% bodyfat look more ripped than them. One could even argue that athleticism goes hand in hand with cardiovascular endurance.

One could ALSO argue that it's just raw talent. Professional lineman aren't athletic 'looking' but are amazing athletes.

I guess I sort of contradicted myself in this thread.

contradiction or not, you're right. you can't judge someone's athleticism by their looks

Eason · Dec 14, 2009

^^ good point:

What is the 'athletic' size?

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