The StyleForum Working Hierarchical Suit Quality List (SFWHSQL!)

Sartoria Castangia belongs in the top tier.

This is a piece of nonsense. Everyone's opinion will be manipulated by their direct experience, fit/style/features especially as well as other subjective concerns and so no genuine comparator will emerge.

Pass I would say.

People failed to listen so the list didn't work well. Lists that this happen all the time in forums ONE person ONE change per day and after many posts a very good list is created with a general trend of where each brand/thing/song/fruit should sit. Of course its all opinions, but if its a good brand it should have more good opinions than bad opinions and slowly move towards the top.

i rank alfani higher than armani

So... I don't have the cash to find out on my own... where does Tom Ford belong on this list?

How about Richard James?

Originally Posted by GBR

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This is a piece of nonsense. Everyone's opinion will be manipulated by their direct experience, fit/style/features especially as well as other subjective concerns and so no genuine comparator will emerge.

Pass I would say.
I cannot knock your statements, but how would you suggest a hierarchy be constructed???

Again, anyone Battistoni?

Any Asians want to chime in on where G2000 and the G2000 black label fit in?

Excellent [*****] (i.e. Suits made this well are far and few between, if money is no object your closet would be full of these. This category should be kept to only a few items)
- Kiton
- Oxxford
- Brioni
- Cesare Attolini Napoli (after seen and tried it for the first time, indeed one of the best)
- Luigi Borrelli and Luxury Vintage line
- RLPL (not suit maker, a designer brand)
- Luciano Barbera Collezioni Sartoriale
- St Andrew
- D'Avenza

Very Good [****] (i.e. Few suits match the quality of the ones in this category).
- Belvest
- Corneliani Linea Sartoria
- Canali Milano
- Sartoria Partenopea
- Sartoria Attolini Napoli
- Isaia
- (most of Raffaelle Caruso) eg. Sartoria Parma
- Pal Zileri Sartoriale (I think there is another line higher than Sartoriale, the custom made one, IIRC "Abito Privato", excellent quality)
- Ravazzolo
- Zegna Couture
- Brooks Brothers Golden Fleece

Good [***] (i.e. Quality is superior to most suits).
- Brooks Brothers Black Fleece
- Hickey Freeman Mainline
- Corneliani
- Canali
- K by Canali
- Ermenegildo Zegna
- Samuelsohn
- Paul Smith Mainline (not a suit maker, designer brand - fully canvassed)
- RLBL (not a suit maker, designer brand - fully canvassed)
- Faconnable Tailleur (also designer brand)
- Cantarelli Tailor

Satisfactory [**] (i.e. The "Average" Brands. Quality is acceptable).
- Cantarelli
- Boglioli (might not be not in terms of construction, but def for cut and fabric)
- Brooks Brothers 1818 (half canvassed)
- Paul Smith London (not a suit maker, designer brand - half canvassed)
- H. Freemann
- Hickey Freeman LTD (Half Canvas)
- hickey
- Hackett

Mediocre[*] (Suits that are mediocre)
- Z-Zegna (sometimes satisfactory sometimes mediocre)
- Hugo Boss
- Marco Valentino (half canvas) - surprising but I found the VFM is great
- Joseph Abboud
- J. Press

Where do the following belong on the lower end of the scale?

Jack Victor
HSM
Benjamin

What about Paolo Gucci?

Originally Posted by zenith

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Where do the following belong on the lower end of the scale? Jack Victor HSM Benjamin
My experience with Jack Victor has been in trousers only, but I've been happy with the value for money. I would place them in Satisfactory, although I believe they are fused jackets, so may be disqualified. The fabric and stitching belongs with the satisfactory group.

Where is "Adriano and Sons" stand?

Originally Posted by Pezzaturra

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Where is "Adriano and Sons" stand?

same level as caruso and isaia