Gun Club Check Appreciation Thread

Film Noir Buff · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

That's not an actual ensemble. It's the maker's son who put on the jacket just to show the fabric in that shot. The jacket is for another. - B
Hopefully, they made him a matching deerstalker.

voxsartoria · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

Hopefully, they made him a matching deerstalker.

I think that they skipped that because they only had seven different kinds of tweeds in stock.

Plus, there is a big stockpile in Naples.

- B

Parker · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by yfyf

Where's your recent Chan? That was a lovely check and I actually prefer the relatively small size of the pattern.

Here's a bad shot me wearing it. (Dont' laugh, I did put on socks).

And a macro. There's no overcheck, just brown and rust on top of a lighter brown-gray. yfyf found this in the Chan archives/warehouse.

Film Noir Buff · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

I think that they skipped that because they only had seven different kinds of tweeds in stock. Plus, there is a big stockpile in Naples. - B
Hey tough guy, my jacket used 8 different tweeds. It's a Section 8...get it, get it?

aj_del · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by Parker

Here's a bad shot me wearing it. (Dont' laugh, I did put on socks).

Yours looks so much better than the examples in the last page. Those almost put me off gun club ..

TC (Houston) · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by gdl203

I thought that SC was a gingham pattern with a 2nd color overcheck while GC was a 2-color gingham pattern with a 3rd color overcheck. Might be completely wrong though...

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

Harrison of Edinburgh coined the term District Checks at the end of the Nineteenth century, of which there were about thirty, the production of which they took over from Fraser and Smith.

One District Check was the Shepherd Check. This was four by four or six by six black and white.

Another District Check was the Gun Club (Coigach.) This was like a Shepherd Check but in alternating series of black and reddish brown against white. The Gun Club was a reimportation of a pattern lost in Britain but preserved in America.

Things have devolved, or evolved if you prefer, from that time. There were many District Checks that one might call "gun clubs" today, but they were actually checks of their own name and type (Gairloch, Brooke, etc.)

There are also all the modern divergences, but instead of calling then gun clubs it probably makes more sense just to call them checks.

The most famous District Check is the PoW, a variation of the Small Glen Urquhart.

- B

Thanks for the explanation, gents. Are they also traditionally light brown, reddish brown or brown tones? It seems most examples I have seen referred to as "gun club" are in that family. I think this jacket technically meets the description but the color tones are unlike any I have ever seen referred to as gun club.

Also, can you guys point me to any resources to learn the names and characteristics of fabrics and patterns? I have most of flusser's books and I don't recall it ever being covered in great detail.

Film Noir Buff · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by TC (Houston)

Thanks for the explanation, gents. Are they also traditionally light brown, reddish brown or brown tones? It seems most examples I have seen referred to as "gun club" are in that family. I think this jacket technically meets the description but the color tones are unlike any I have ever seen referred to as gun club. Also, can you guys point me to any resources to learn the names and characteristics of fabrics and patterns? I have most of flusser's books and I don't recall it ever being covered in great detail.

What possible use could you have for this information?

james_timothy · Oct 28, 2009

Satisfying one's curiosity?

oshinex · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by Parker

Here's a bad shot me wearing it. (Dont' laugh, I did put on socks).

And a macro. There's no overcheck, just brown and rust on top of a lighter brown-gray. yfyf found this in the Chan archives/warehouse.

How big is the lapels on this jacket?

sammy · Oct 28, 2009

What book and swatch number is this one from?

RSS · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by Parker

I really like gun club checks.
So do I ... more than a few Biddle Lists' worth.

TC (Houston) · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

What possible use could you have for this information?

Is this a serious question? In any event, I would like to become better versed so that I can properly identify fabrics and communicate effectively to others about those fabrics.

Film Noir Buff · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by TC (Houston)

Is this a serious question?
I asked you first. I suppose anywhere but here it's a serious question.

Originally Posted by TC (Houston)

In any event, I would like to become better versed so that I can properly identify fabrics and communicate effectively to others about those fabrics.
This answers my question; you really have no use for this information

TC (Houston) · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

This answers my question; you really have no use for this information

You've lost me. But I did get the implication that my inquiry does not merit a meaningful response. Thanks for the help.

Will · Oct 28, 2009

Originally Posted by TC (Houston)

Is this a serious question? In any event, I would like to become better versed so that I can properly identify fabrics and communicate effectively to others about those fabrics.

About thirty years ago Johnstons of Elgin updated a book titled Scottish District Checks (it's not handy and I could have the publisher wrong but the title is correct). It has histories and photos of hundreds of estate tweeds, including the gun clubs. Copies are still around in used book stores.

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