The StyleForum Working Hierarchical Suit Quality List (SFWHSQL!)

What about Rubinacci RTW?

If you buy a suit online and they include one of those matching shirt/tie/hanky box sets, does that affect the ranking? 'Cause I'm thinking it could push Lauren Ralph Lauren to its rightful spot above Black Label.

I think we need a Jos. A. Bank dedicated sub-list.

There's Executive, Signature, Traveler, Signature Gold, Trio, Joseph, and Stays Cool. That's a lot to grapple with. My initial vote is for Stays Cool.

ooh, what about the Levi's Action Suit? You could wash it and wear it, and it had a little "Levi's" embroidered on the sleeve cuff.

Originally Posted by mafoofan

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I think we need a Jos. A. Bank dedicated sub-list.

There's Executive, Signature, Traveler, Signature Gold, Trio, Joseph, and Stays Cool. That's a lot to grapple with.
I see you have given this matter some thought.

My initial vote is for Stays Cool.

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Is that for periodic female travelers?

Originally Posted by mafoofan

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I think we need a Jos. A. Bank dedicated sub-list.

There's Executive, Signature, Traveler, Signature Gold, Trio, Joseph, and Stays Cool. That's a lot to grapple with. My initial vote is for Stays Cool.

Stay Cool sounds awesome, and I'm pretty sure that's one of the criteria for the list.

Originally Posted by RJman

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What about Rubinacci RTW?

Disqualified by Moo.

Originally Posted by RJman

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ooh, what about the Levi's Action Suit? You could wash it and wear it, and it had a little "Levi's" embroidered on the sleeve cuff.

Above SoCal, but below Fuuma. However, I can see it going the other way. Whatever the case, it deserves our support.

Originally Posted by RJman

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I see you have given this matter some thought. Is that for periodic female travelers?

No, they wear Trands.

Originally Posted by DocHolliday

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Stay Cool sounds awesome, and I'm pretty sure that's one of the criteria for the list.

It really should have it's own exclusive rating, set aside from all the rest. Like Connemara, but less pasty and virginal.

Who the f*ck abbreviates 'Joseph' to 'Jos.'?

Originally Posted by mafoofan

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It really should have it's own exclusive rating, set aside from all the rest.

I think there's already a forum devoted to it and its brethren.

Originally Posted by mafoofan

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Who the f*ck abbreviates 'Joseph' to 'Jos.'?

Doesn't the store do it?

The NYAG is investigating...

If they spelled it out, they'd have to buy wider labels, and that cost would then have to be passed on to the consumer.

Originally Posted by DocHolliday

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I think there's already a forum devoted to it and its brethren.

Maybe I should start another proxy thread, this time to encapsulate the entire AAAC forum. Just think: a whole forum inside a thread inside another forum. If my appearance on The Today Show has taught me anything, it's to aspire.

Originally Posted by RJman

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Doesn't the store do it?

Maybe they were trying to Stay Cool.

There's a big jump between 0 star and 1 star so I added fractional stars Also bumped up Nautica from 0 star to 4/8 star Nonpareil [*****1/2] (i.e. Unmatched so don't add anyone else) - Savile Row's Paul Jheeta Excellent [*****] (i.e. Suits made this well are far and few between, if money is no object your closet would be full of these. If money is a factor then these suits could sell for much, much more. This category should be kept to only a few items) - Kiton - Oxxford - Brioni - Cesare Attolini Napoli - Borrelli - RLPL Very Good [****] (i.e. Few suits match the quality of the ones in this category or prices could be raised significantly and would still be good value). - Luciano Barbera - Sartoria Partenopea - Sartoria Attolini Napoli - Isaia - Caruso Sartoria Parma - Pal Zileri Sartoriale - Ravazzolo - Zegna Couture - Brooks Brothers Black Fleece Good [***] (i.e. Quality is superior to most suits or the value of these suits is above average). - Caruso - Canali - Corneliani - Hickey Freeman Mainline - Brooks Brothers Golden Fleece - Ermenegildo Zegna - Samuelsohn Satisfactory [**] (i.e. The "Average" Brands. Quality is acceptable, and the price matches it). - Cantarelli - Boglioli (might not be not in terms of construction, but def for cut and fabric) - Brooks Brothers 1818 - Paul Smith - H. Freemann - Hickey Freeman LTD (Half Canvas) - RLBL - Z-Zegna (sometimes satisfactory sometimes mediocre) Mediocre [*] (i.e. Suits that should usually be avoided. Quality leaves much to be desired or prices are usually higher than they should be for such a suit). - Hugo Boss - Banana Republic Monogram - Lauren Ralph Lauren So-so [7/8 *] (i.e. sometimes good, sometimes bad) - Land's End - Hart Schaffner Marx - Sean John Below par [6/8 *] (i.e. noticeably lacking in quality, only for doormen) - Chaps Ralph Lauren - Haggar Imperial - Jos A Bank Signature Gold Displeasing [5/8 *] (i.e. downright offensive to the senses) - Baroni - Jos A Bank Signature - John Bartlett - Haggar Black Label For poor people [4/8 *] (i.e. Don't buy unless money is definitely an object) - Haggar - Oscar de la Renta - Nautica - Jos A Bank Executive - Evan Picone Bad [3/8 *] (i.e. Don't buy unless you're on welfare and need to appear in court. May be able to return for refund if you don't remove the sleeve tag) - Tommy Hilfiger - Mantoni (sorry Manton) - Jos A Bank Stays Cool (sometimes 4/8 * if you need help staying cool ) - Cricketeer Really Bad [2/8 *] (i.e. more bad than Bad but not as bad as Badder than Really Bad) - Austin Reed - Polo University Club (if you cut off half the label that says University Club, upgrade to 3/8 *) - Rocco Siffredi - Mario Rossi - British Manor Badder [1/8 *] (just don't buy it OK?) - Today's Man - K&G - Structure (if you have a time machine to go back to 1992, bump to 3/8 *) - Alfani Baddest [ ] (i.e. Don't buy. Quality is overall bad, or quality is nowhere near the price asked for). - H&M - Banana Republic - Calvin Klein - Tasso Elba

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Why is Black Fleece now above Golden Fleece?

Because it's a superior product (at least the stuff I've seen and own - not sure about the current season)

btw, where's Burberry? And Loro Piana?

...and Men's Wearhouse omfg?

Excellent [*****] (i.e. Suits made this well are far and few between, if money is no object your closet would be full of these. If money is a factor then these suits could sell for much, much more. This category should be kept to only a few items) Raja Fashions - Leading tailor in HK.