I have a jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - ask questions here.

aqhong · May 29, 2009

Originally Posted by Steggy

So it says that these are japenese selvedge denim. I have heard selvedge doesn't necessarily mean raw, but it says to wear as long as possible without washing, and they are very rigid. Are these raw denim? And in any case, any tips on how to wear these as far as breaking em in or giving them some sort of wash?(i hear some people shower with them on and walk around for a while or something) any help would be appreciated. I usually only buy like...regular jeans haha.
"Selvedge" and "raw" are two mutually exclusive concepts. Selvedge refers to a type of denim woven on old-fashioned shuttle looms (as opposed to modern projectile looms). Raw refers to denim that has not been washed or pre-distressed. Jeans can be selvedge but not raw, raw but not selvedge, both, or neither. In your case, those RRLs are both. Selvedge has no bearing on how to wear them, as it's just a production detail. As for raw jeans, only unsanforized/shrink-to-fit jeans need to be soaked beforehand. Those RRLs aren't, so just wear them.

Steggy · May 29, 2009

thanks for all of the info man.

So how long should like, a minimum be of wearing these before washing? What exactly will happen when i wash them? will it like, ruin the process from there on in?

whodini · May 29, 2009

Originally Posted by Steggy

thanks for all of the info man. So how long should like, a minimum be of wearing these before washing? What exactly will happen when i wash them? will it like, ruin the process from there on in?
How do you want these to turn out exactly?

aqhong · May 29, 2009

Originally Posted by Steggy

thanks for all of the info man.

So how long should like, a minimum be of wearing these before washing? What exactly will happen when i wash them? will it like, ruin the process from there on in?
There is no minimum. Wash them when you need to. When you wash them, they get clean. Also, they lose a little indigo. Nothing gets ruined unless your definition of "ruin" is having your jeans turn a slightly lighter shade of blue.

Steggy · May 29, 2009

I don't know how exactly i want them to turn out. the whole fading from like, my wallet and my knees or whatever will be fine enough. That would just be from regular wear. I saw someone post this pic before and i thought they were pretty good.

I know in the behind pic those things in the knee area is called honeycombing, but how exactly do you get that? i've seen some pics of people wearing the dark denim like that, but how exactly do they do that? i woudl think the jeans would just...you know...sag back down into a straight state.

theom- · May 29, 2009

^^ don't worry about how you get fades and over analyze wearing them. Just buy raw denim in a cut you like, and then wear them as often as possible washing as little as possible. too many people are obsessed with "how" to wear raw denim. I mean seriously, do you think truckers and farmer and mechanics care about getting "teh sik fadez"? They just wear the **** out of their jeans. end of story.

Pilot · May 29, 2009

Steggy:

1. Purchase raw jeans. (you've already done this)
2. Wear the jeans as much as possible (all day everyday is preferred)
3. Wash or soak them when they get grimey, smelly, or if you spill something on them.
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3.

Your fades will turn out however they turn out. thats why they are unique and individual to you. you aren't going to have the same fades as those nudies you posted.

aqhong · May 29, 2009

Wait, are those actually raw RRLs, or just dark wash? I was under the impression that raw RRLs had no back pocket stitching.

Steggy · May 29, 2009

Originally Posted by aqhong

whacked · May 29, 2009

Originally Posted by aqhong

Wait, are those actually raw RRLs, or just dark wash? I was under the impression that raw RRLs had no back pocket stitching.

It depends on which season they came from.

aqhong · May 29, 2009

Originally Posted by Steggy

i've seen some raw rrl denim online with stitching, but i'm no expert. here are pics if it helps(only links don't wanna stretch the forums now do i) http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...h/PICT0066.jpg http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...h/PICT0067.jpg http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...h/PICT0068.jpg http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...h/PICT0070.jpg http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...h/PICT0071.jpg http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...h/PICT0073.jpg http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...h/PICT0074.jpg http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...h/PICT0075.jpg
You should be able to tell whether or not they are raw based on feel; raw denim is usually much stiffer than "regular" washed denim. Your question about how honeycombs are formed suggests to me that they are not in fact raw, because if they were, the answer to that should be fairly obvious.

pridecake · May 29, 2009

look raw to me.

kleny · May 29, 2009

What are the sizing rules for Crate Route? True, up, down?

and where can I purchase them? Ive checked Farinelli, context, detour and secret service...no routes =(

theom- · May 29, 2009

^^^ those RRLs look raw to me. If it was washed denim the hems would have some twisting/unfaded roping.

dyzfunctioned · May 29, 2009

Originally Posted by kleny

What are the sizing rules for Crate Route? True, up, down?

and where can I purchase them? Ive checked Farinelli, context, detour and secret service...no routes =(

From what I understand they're TTS which means the tagged size = size of waist. May want to size down one for a slim fit though.

PM Mauro... he'll probably have a shipment coming in soon enough.

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