Sydney or Melbourne bespoke suit

Originally Posted by Sator

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Go for the Harrisons or Lesser books.
what's wrong with dormeiul? or ... why harrisons or lesser's?

Originally Posted by Reckoner

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b/c Adamo said it looks like you're a school boy if you just get it plain/solid and you can't tell that it's cheap or expensive ... I want it to look classy.
Hmph, surely, from what we have heard about the mythical Adamo, you would know that, by its cut and fit, a suit by him would be 'expensive' and that there would be no reason for flashy designs nor to dispense with solids. It is alarming that he might think a suit from him has the ability to look cheap or like a schoolboy's uniform. Also, at what school do children wear suits, as opposed to trousers and a blazer?

I think Adamo's preference is to guide clients towards cloths with a little bit of detail. For instance, I wanted a plain navy suit, as my first bespoke item, but he suggested herringbone which catches the eye upon closer inspection. 2 years on, I"m glad he made the suggestion.

There are boys' schools here in Sydney where student wear suits, with the blazer being reserved for wear during sporting activities.

Originally Posted by AndrewRogers

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It is alarming that he might think a suit from him has the ability to look cheap or like a schoolboy's uniform. Also, at what school do children wear suits, as opposed to trousers and a blazer?

Originally Posted by pdizzle

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I think Adamo's preference is to guide clients towards cloths with a little bit of detail. For instance, I wanted a plain navy suit, as my first bespoke item, but he suggested herringbone which catches the eye upon closer inspection. 2 years on, I"m glad he made the suggestion. There are boys' schools here in Sydney where student wear suits, with the blazer being reserved for wear during sporting activities.
No it's just when you look from afar, and all you see is grey or charcoal, you can't really distinguish the suit vs. a RTW if that has the same colour. School kids tend to wear dark grey that's why ... so Adamo recommended that it was best I add some detail to give it a more trendier business look whilst also being suitable for my age group. Now ... he didn't recommend a more expensive fabric, he just thought that I should choose something within the same fabric book that either had some texture or light pinstripe that was not too aggressive to detract away from the overall conservative charcoal/grey business look. He even told me that because I was younger, that it wasn't necessary to go for an expensive, "luxury" fabric right now. In the end I chose a dark charcoal with some very faint/light blue pinstripes. I'm very happy I did, since just a plain solid grey was too old/conservative that didn't match my age group and youthful athletic look. He gives very good advice when needed, but also refrains from giving advice when he thinks he's diluting the client's decision making process. Overall, a very good experience. I'm very glad I went through the process, as I've been wanting to go through the bespoke experience for a long time now, despite it's heavy price tag. You get to see the inner workings of how a suit is made, and come away from it with cumulative knowledge on fabric, labor, style, and construction that will aid in future purchases. If you care about your appearance, whether for work/client-facing reasons or just personal reasons, and would like to gain some knowledge to boot, then bespoke is the way to go.

An update on my Adamo commission So after about 3 months or so ... Here's how my charcoal/business bespoke suit with light pin-stripes turned out, would like some honest opinions and feedback. 1. Is the jacket length too long compared to what I was originally after? 2. And is it too baggy? not fitting enough? I could have made it even more fitting, however it's really tight to get into if that was the case. ------------------ I was hoping to get it cut shorter something like this, or maybe longer, however Adamo wouldn't budge on the issue, he said it wasn't advisable for long term reasons: My original picture I showed him: I'd be interested in what Sator has to say. BTW Sator, I've registered for your new website ... I wasn't sure whether it was appropriate to put this post up on your site, or here, b/c your site is a "cutter's and tailor's" site ...

Looks great mate.

The button stance looks a bit strange if it's a 2 button. But I guess thats just me.

Originally Posted by Reckoner

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An update on my Adamo commission

So after about 3 months or so ... Here's how my charcoal/business bespoke suit with light pin-stripes turned out, would like some honest opinions and feedback.

1. Is the jacket length too long compared to what I was originally after?
2. And is it too baggy? not fitting enough? I could have made it even more fitting, however it's really tight to get into if that was the case.

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I was hoping to get it cut shorter something like this, or maybe longer, however Adamo wouldn't budge on the issue, he said it wasn't advisable for long term reasons:

My original picture I showed him:

I'd be interested in what Sator has to say.
BTW Sator, I've registered for your new website ... I wasn't sure whether it was appropriate to put this post up on your site, or here, b/c your site is a "cutter's and tailor's" site ...

Suit looks more than fine to me. Congrats, well done. May I ask what it cost you?

Originally Posted by TheWraith

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Suit looks more than fine to me. Congrats, well done. May I ask what it cost you?

bout 3K including all the traveling back and forth for measurings and fittings.

Thanks for updating us with the results. That suit is head and shoulders above what you generally see around Sydney. I wanted a really short jacket just for fun, so I had a cheap (fused) suit made in HK. The tailor told me that some super-trendy Japanese guys have been getting jackets made that barely go down to the belt Short jackets may be in fashion at the moment, but mine will probably be in the charity bin within a couple of years, and I definately won't be wearing it to work. Listening to Adamo on the length issue was a good decision.

Originally Posted by Reckoner

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bout 3K including all the traveling back and forth for measurings and fittings.

That suit will last you many years to come, especially if you take good care of it and will always look stylish. That's money well spent, I think.

Don't do both buttons up at once. Apart from that the suit looks good. It is no worse than RTW, but I seriously question paying 3,000 for it unless you are a very, very hard fit. See whether you can find something RTW in your size. Take some photographs and you will find there will be little difference. Of course, if you're going bespoke just for kicks, that's fine, but by the look of you and that suit, there is no need.

i get a decent wage ... despite the economic environment. and ... i wanted to go through the bespoke process and develop a close relationship with a top tailor ... i'll stick with adamo for the next 5-10 years ... or maybe the rest of my career. not sure we'll see how it goes.

i ring him up from time to time and ask for advice. not just on suits ... but shirts and how to dresss.

that was the other added benefit of bespoke ...a relationship and knowledge.

If you can't afford it, I don't recommend people go bespoke ... but ... I've got money to blow ... so that's that i guess.
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Please only ever do up the top button on your jacket.

And by the looks of it, its time to invest in some new shoes.

But the suit looks very good.

Originally Posted by fox81

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Please only ever do up the top button on your jacket.

And by the looks of it, its time to invest in some new shoes.

But the suit looks very good.

Indeed, and once that is done, fix up the puddling with the length of your trousers. I am sure Adamo will be more than happy to do that, although he does wear his trousers quite long with plenty of break.

Originally Posted by fox81

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Please only ever do up the top button on your jacket.

And by the looks of it, its time to invest in some new shoes.

But the suit looks very good.

Re; Shoes ...

I've never really understood ... if shoes are black ... how do you really tell what is good quality vs. bad?

I've asked some of my girl friends this, and they say that, despite having shoe fetishes themselves (female shoes) they rarely look at a man's shoes, especially if they're black.

Black is just black.