Putting Off The Married Life

Originally Posted by Manton

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Ahem, they gave that up.

you'd be surprised how many people never got that memo.

Originally Posted by Thomas

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you'd be surprised how many people never got that memo.

I have seen two episodes of Big Love so I am way ahead of you.

But supposedly it is a very small minority, which is actively shunned by the church.

Originally Posted by j

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I am pretty anti-marriage (for myself) but there is definite potential value in bringing the families together to meet and form a support network for the couple, to help them survive the relationship etc. This will pretty much never happen (at least, as efficiently) in a non-married relationship, no matter how committed. Whether the families are made up of useless bags of drunken flesh is another issue, but as I said, it has great potential value, and in for this purpose, little downside.

That's one of the general provisos in the marriage preparation and ceremony: the acknowledgement by the families that they support the union. At least that's how it's put in the church-y type ceremonies.

No idea how it goes in the Melvis-presided Vegas-drive-through-weddings.

Originally Posted by Manton

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I have seen two episodes of Big Love so I am way ahead of you.

But supposedly it is a very small minority, which is actively shunned by the church.

Perhaps...I worked with a Mormon minister for half a year, and played in his basketball league over the winter, and played golf with him - and contributed copious amounts of lucre to his daughters' college funds as a result - bastard was a scratch golfer.

But you have Big Love on your side. I call it 50/50.


Agree on the shunned minority aspect, as far as I know.

This is the worst thread in, putting it roughly, a long time.

Originally Posted by Douglas

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This is the worst thread in, putting it roughly, a long time.

You missed the incest.

Originally Posted by Douglas

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This is the worst thread in, putting it roughly, a long time.

I see multiple porno subtitles in your post. Please clean up your act.

Originally Posted by Manton

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This is gold. Keep it up!

+1

lol this threak is pathetic - think British "Office" rather than American "Office".

Originally Posted by dah328

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Well of course you can make all kinds of otherwise nonsensical arguments when you have removed one of the central tenets of marriage from your conception of the institution.
I have literally no idea what you are talking about. You are the one who brought up open marriages and fidelity, not me. In my opinion it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

People can decide and commit to be faithful to each other and still not accept that this decision of theirs be a state-santioned legally-enforced requirement. This is by far the reason I have heard the most from long-term couples who don't want to get married. There are other reasons though. How you can make a blanket statement that none of those reasons are serious and that they just don't want to commit is beyond me.

It is not for no reason that sexual infidelity is the first of the faults cited for divorce.

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Well, my opinion would be that there is indeed a reason. And that reason is that people are generally not meant for fidelity, whether they recognize it or not. But this is a completely different subject.

Originally Posted by Étienne

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I have literally no idea what you are talking about. You are the one who brought up open marriages and fidelity, not me. In my opinion it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

People can decide and commit to be faithful to each other and still not accept that this decision of theirs be a state-santioned legally-enforced requirement. This is by far the reason I have heard the most from long-term couples who don't want to get married. There are other reasons though. How you can make a blanket statement that none of those reasons are serious and that they just don't want to commit is beyond me.


Well, my opinion would be that there is indeed a reason. And that reason is that people are generally not meant for fidelity, whether they recognize it or not. But this is a completely different subject.

Nice to see someone else who is open to thinking about things on a deeper level, instead of reacting defensively and eschewing all thought.

Originally Posted by MetroStyles

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Nice to see someone else who is open to thinking about things on a deeper level, instead of reacting defensively and eschewing all thought.

Originally Posted by Manton

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Ahem, they gave that up.

if I remeber correctly they chnaged the church policy just to gain statehood.

As marriage has been eviscerated (thanks Babyboomers!), so bankruptcy will be also.

I'm also in the pro-prenup camp.

Current (very serious) GF and I already discussed the prenup issue - we both want one. Crazy, huh?

Originally Posted by Flambeur

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Current (very serious) GF and I already discussed the prenup issue - we both want one. Crazy, huh?

No. Sane, educated, rational. Did she go to law school too?

The natural tendency is to be head over heels and starry eyed going into a relationship. No one ever talks about exit strategies. Whether it's a marriage or a business deal, people are more likely to trip over thier feet getting in and neglect an exit strategy. But just like businesses sometimes fail (either because of insolvency or the original partners decided to split), marriages do the same.