Steroids in Bodybuilding...

Gradstudent78 · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by Tck13

Even if one didn't need to use steroids to become Mr. O., it would still be unattainable for mere mortals.

It requires great sorcery apparently:
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js4design · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by beasty

Being Mr or Ms Olympia should be unattainable for mere mortals.
Like banging Angelina or Giselle.

billy bob thorton banged angelina, and he is undoubtably a mortal.

beasty · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by Tck13

Even if one didn't need to use steroids to become Mr. O., it would still be unattainable for mere mortals.

1.\tUnsubstantiated rumour mongering, hearsay and baseless.

2.\tSandow doesn't look like he roided. Ditto Larry Scott. With some training, I am sure you can attain that standard. Decades ago.

beasty · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by js4design

billy bob thorton banged angelina, and he is undoubtably a mortal.

That's like you lucking out and buying Microsoft shares for 1 cents for a 100 lots when it first listed. Try doing that now.

Billy Bob obviously rode the Angelina wave when her stock is low and her preferences bizarre (didn't she keep like a vial of his bodily fluids with her? And isn't Billy Bob out-weirding Joaquin now?)

Just look at Carla Bruni and her attainableness then and now.

Tck13 · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by beasty

1.\tUnsubstantiated rumour mongering, hearsay and baseless.

Huh? Do you understand what I'm (or what you're) saying?

So, you're saying anyone CAN become Mr. O? Would you make up your mind? Even if no steroids were involved, there would be a small amount of people that would even be able to compete, let alone win.

Originally Posted by beasty

2.\tSandow doesn't look like he roided. Ditto Larry Scott. With some training, I am sure you can attain that standard. Decades ago.

Sure, anybody can do it! And look like that!

beasty · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by Tck13

Huh? Do you understand what I'm (or what you're) saying?

So, you're saying anyone CAN become Mr. O? Would you make up your mind? Even if no steroids were involved, there would be a small amount of people that would even be able to compete, let alone win.

Sure, anybody can do it! And look like that!

1.\tMy first point is on your point that you need roids to become Mr O.
To-date, despite the answer being "˜obvious', no one including you can show me a shred of evidence that is the case.

2.\tMy second point is on timing. Those and other Mr Os while impressive in their time are distinctively ordinary now. Just like going to the moon was thought to be a Jules Verne fantasy then, it can even be a tourist destination one day.

Therefore with hard work less roids, you can be a Mr O too.
During Sandow's time. Now, the bar is set higher.

Tck13 · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by beasty

1.\tMy first point is on your point that you need roids to become Mr O. To-date, despite the answer being ‘obvious’, no one including you can show me a shred of evidence that is the case. 2.\tMy second point is on timing. Those and other Mr Os while impressive in their time are distinctively ordinary now. Just like going to the moon was thought to be a Jules Verne fantasy then, it can even be a tourist destination one day. Therefore with hard work less roids, you can be a Mr O too. During Sandow’s time. Now, the bar is set higher.
You do realize that you just about pwnd yourself, right? Do you really believe that people just train harder today? Or better? That may be the case to a certain extent but certainly not completely. Simply look at "Muscle and Fitness" vs. "Natural Bodybuilding" or here: Link. You'll see the difference and it's pretty obvious.

beasty · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by Tck13

You do realize that you just about pwnd yourself, right?

How so?

Tck13 · Apr 16, 2009

Originally Posted by beasty

How so?

Why do you think weightlifters are so much bigger today? Just hard work?

CDFS · Apr 17, 2009

Originally Posted by beasty

1.\tMy first point is on your point that you need roids to become Mr O.
To-date, despite the answer being "˜obvious', no one including you can show me a shred of evidence that is the case.

Here was a 'shred'.

Originally Posted by CDFS

Betsy,

Read the following and/or find yourself some more to read.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...ates_interview

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in676684.shtml

Edit: By Betsy I meant you. Betsy, Beasty, get it? Get it?

beasty · Apr 17, 2009

Originally Posted by Tck13

You do realize that you just about pwnd yourself, right?

Do you really believe that people just train harder today? Or better? That may be the case to a certain extent but certainly not completely. Simply look at "Muscle and Fitness" vs. "Natural Bodybuilding" or here: Link. You'll see the difference and it's pretty obvious.

Look here. I used the term "˜hard work' to describe what it takes to be a Mr O.
I have explained to Mike Lowrey in order to get results, one must mix the holy trinity of training, diet and rest in the right proportion.

I am sure Sandow's and Scott's physiques looked unattainable during their time but in actual fact can be attained now without steroids. Therefore in years to come, anyone can attain Ronnie's and Jay's physiques without steroids.

As for Muscle and Fitness physiques, a body like that wont even let you be the usher in a Mr O competition.

CDFS · Apr 17, 2009

mmh, I hate to admit this but while I was browsing youtube I found proof in your favor, beasty.

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CDFS · Apr 17, 2009

Edit: double post

CDFS · Apr 17, 2009

Edit: Tripple post.... Stupit interwebz

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