wunderlic: a major lulz every year

Vince Young!!!!

Does a defensive tackle need a high wunderlic score?

I dont think so.....

Kris Jenkins... all he needs to know is two words "collapse pocket".

I could see a QB or wide receiver or even a MIKE benefit from being smart... but certain positions, not so much

Does running a route require extreme intelligence? I doubt it

Dan Marino I think had an 18.

I wonder how many of my humanities classmates could answer the mathy wonderlic questions. I was sitting in a history seminar and one of my classmates said he was in an interview and was asked, "what is the decimal equivalent of 1/32?" His answer, after a few moments of consideration was, "one sixth!"

Swing and a miss, big guy.

For the record most players who take this are "coached" on it before hand. I can't remember who it was a few years back, got an abysmal score because he just took the test without being coached on it, but re-did and scored quite well.

I guess it bothers me because it is like "studying" for an IQ test, when it really should just be a test of someone's natural tendencies and problem solving, imho. Then it would be a more accurate barometer.

Isn't this kind of a ridiculous thing to judge a football player on? Rather than watching them on film?

I mean if a middle lineback displays all the right instincts and is the head of his team's defenses, reading offensive exceptionally well, what the **** does it matter what he got on some arbitrary test? They're not tested on football situations are they?

Its just a way to be racist and draft more white QBs.

Originally Posted by Brian278

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Isn't this kind of a ridiculous thing to judge a football player on? Rather than watching them on film?

I mean if a middle lineback displays all the right instincts and is the head of his team's defenses, reading offensive exceptionally well, what the **** does it matter what he got on some arbitrary test? They're not tested on football situations are they?

It is not the be all, end all, but it can be useful to segment. The patriots love smart players (Bruschi). If you have two athletes with similar physical skills, and one is smarter than the other, you can use the brains of the smart players to do more - playing them out of position, teaching them tendencies so they get the edge on what becomes the critical play, etc.

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It is not the be all, end all, but it can be useful to segment. The patriots love smart players (Bruschi). If you have two athletes with similar physical skills, and one is smarter than the other, you can use the brains of the smart players to do more - playing them out of position, teaching them tendencies so they get the edge on what becomes the critical play, etc.

OK, but wouldn't whether or not they were football-smart have showed up in there career by the time they played 3 years in college? It would seem to me that this is more useful than math problems.

yes, any testing of intelligence is inherently racist.

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Its just a way to be racist and draft more white QBs.

Originally Posted by Brian278

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OK, but wouldn't whether or not they were football-smart have showed up in there career by the time they played 3 years in college? It would seem to me that this is more useful than math problems.

You can judge a certain amount of football smarts by looking at tape, but you can't judge how quickly that player can learn - most college schemes are pretty simple and most guys will have played that scheme for years. You don't have 3 years to learn a pro scheme. Speed and brute strength can make up for many mistakes in the college game. I don't think you realize how much things change from week to week in the pros. Even a d lineman has to take on certain responsibilities on each play. Everything from making sure that he checks the TE or goes wide against a certain blocking look or stays home against another can change based on who you're playing. There ar not universal rules.

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Speed and brute strength can make up for many mistakes in the college game. I don't think you realize how much things change from week to week in the pros.

Boss Bailey, linebacker for UGA and then the Detroit Lions (now Broncos), is a perfect example of this. 6'3", 230, and 4.3 speed. What dinged him in the draft was that he 'just ran around a lot'. He could make up for being out of position or having a wrong read with his crazy speed for a linebacker.

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Boss Bailey, linebacker for UGA and then the Detroit Lions (now Broncos), is a perfect example of this. 6'3", 230, and 4.3 speed. What dinged him in the draft was that he 'just ran around a lot'. He could make up for being out of position or having a wrong read with his crazy speed for a linebacker.

That has got to be the fastest 40 for a linebacker in history. I believe he ran a 4.35 at his pro day, but a 4.4 at the combine. Pro day stats tend to be biased by a faster track.........

Good point with Bailey.... he is a bust just like Gholston from my beloved Jets

The Wonderlic is useful, but overrated as an evaulative tool. Alex Smith of the 49ers scored a 40, and see how that turned out.

Worried about Percys stock with that score...