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Google Chrome is the Best Browser!

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After all the browser talk the answer has arrived through the Pwn2Own contest. Chrome was the only browser left standing after a full day of hacking and exploits! Day 2, all the focus will be on Chrome, so until tomorrow, Chrome.

By the way, the new Beta version is out. It's faster and more stable than the non-beta release and you can add extensions now, like the Fox.

http://arstechnica.com/security/news...-contest.ars?1

Chrome only browser left standing after day one of Pwn2Own
During a contest at the CanSecWest event, security researchers competed to exploit vulnerabilities in web browsers. Firefox, Safari, and Internet Explorer were all successfully compromised, but Chrome was able to withstand the first day of the competition.

Browser vendors often make strong claims about their responsiveness to vulnerability reports and their ability to preemptively prevent exploits. Security is becoming one of the most significant fronts in the new round of browser wars, but it's also arguably one of the hardest aspects of software to measure or quantify.

A recent contest at CanSecWest, an event that brings together some of the most skilled experts in the security community, has demonstrated that the three most popular browser are susceptible to security bugs despite the vigilance and engineering prowess of their creators. Firefox, Safari, and Internet Explorer were all exploited during the Pwn2Own competition that took place at the conference. Google's Chrome browser, however, was the only one left standing"โ€a victory that security researchers attribute to its innovative sandbox feature.

The contest awards security researchers with hardware and cash prizes for finding efficient ways to trick browsers into executing arbitrary code. During the first day of the competition, the contestants are required to do this in default browser installations without plugins such as Flash or Java, which are commonly used as vectors for attacks. Researchers typically prepare for the event far in advance by finding zero-day exploits ahead of time.

Early this month, prior champion Charlie Miller told reporters that he would be attempting to exploit a Safari vulnerability on Mac OS X. Safari, he said, would be the first to succumb to the contestants. As he promised, Safari went down first: he was able to execute his prepared hack in only a matter of seconds. Another security expert known only as Nils took longer, but was able to successfully exploit all three of the most popular browsers.

These contests contribute to the growing culture of commercialism that surrounds the art of exploitation. In an interview with ZDNet, Miller said that the vulnerability he used in the contest was one that he had originally found while preparing for the contest last year. Instead of disclosing it at that time, he decided to save it for the contest this year, because the contest only pays for one bug per year. This is part of his new philosophy, he says, which is that bugs shouldn't be disclosed to vendors for free.

"I never give up free bugs. I have a new campaign. It's called NO MORE FREE BUGS. Vulnerabilities have a market value so it makes no sense to work hard to find a bug, write an exploit and then give it away," Miller told ZDNet. "Apple pays people to do the same job so we know there's value to this work."

Miller also told reporters that he targeted Safari on Mac OS X because he believes that it is the easiest to exploit. Windows, on the other hand, he claims is tougher because of its address randomization feature and other security measures. As for Chrome, he says that he has identified a security bug in Google's browser but has been unable to exploit it because the browser's sandboxing feature and the operating system's security measures together pose a formidable challenge.

The game isn't over yet. During the second day of the event, the focus will turn towards Chrome. Nils, who demonstrated impressive skill during the first day by conquering the three most popular browsers, might have a few more tricks up his sleeve. According to the official rules, the participants will be permitted to use plugins during the second day.
 

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Originally Posted by JoeWoah
After all the browser talk the answer has arrived through the Pwn2Own contest. Chrome was the only browser left standing after a full day of hacking and exploits! Day 2, all the focus will be on Chrome, so until tomorrow, Chrome. By the way, the new Beta version is out. It's faster and more stable than the non-beta release and you can add extensions now, like the Fox. http://arstechnica.com/security/news...-contest.ars?1
so how much did google paid them for the review? edit, read the article full of nothing. it takes time for people to dig up exploits in a new beta product... mac is, of course, the easiest one to compromise as most mac users r ignorant computer users.
 

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Bizarre. It still crashes on me pretty routinely.
 

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Originally Posted by robin
Bizarre. It still crashes on me pretty routinely.

I used it for 3 months and it still can't display SF correctly, which is using a highly popular message board system. I even reported the problem. I regularly get errors after posting a message. I also can't click on the thread titles from the main forum page. It's a little bit marsupialed. I also prefer IE 8s bookmarks.
 

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Originally Posted by vitaminc
so how much did google paid them for the review? edit, read the article full of nothing. it takes time for people to dig up exploits in a new beta product... mac is, of course, the easiest one to compromise as most mac users r ignorant computer users.
Chrome is out of beta, has been for quite some time. They were hacking the stable version. Plus, what self respecting hackers shows up to a security conference without doing their homework first? It's not like they sprung the contest on them. If anything, the beta should be easier to mess with anyway. We will see what happens tomorrow, but Chrome rocks!
Originally Posted by GQgeek
I used it for 3 months and it still can't display SF correctly, which is using a highly popular message board system. I even reported the problem. I regularly get errors after posting a message. I also can't click on the thread titles from the main forum page. It's a little bit marsupialed. I also prefer IE 8s bookmarks.
I use Chrome almost exclusively, no problems here. Try updating. It really should be automatic and check for updates more often than it does. Chrome is by far the most stable browser and fastest browser I've used. It was shaky at first though, the beta build around summer didn't handle Flash well, but they worked that out.
 

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PC World has declared FireFox on the brink of death due to the awesomeness that is Chrome!

http://www.pcworld.com/article/16163...ox_chrome.html

Firefox May Already Be Dead

This is an exciting time for Web browsers. Google Chrome is now available in alpha for Linux, and I downloaded it for Ubuntu. Despite the fact that I was running it on my rather underpowered Dell Mini 9, it started in the blink of an eye. Additionally, any JavaScript-heavy sites like Gmail or Google Docs were so responsive that it's almost unbelievable.

Does that sound familiar? That's right. It's just like how Firefox used to be.

Run Chrome and Firefox side-by-side, and Firefox is embarrassingly slow. It's not even in the same league. It's an old man on the running track trying to compete against a sprightly 20-year-old.

I think Firefox has lost the plot. This is a British phrase, and I'm not sure it's used widely in the US, so perhaps it requires some explanation. But it's not hard to work out. It implies a blind dedication to something questionable. If a car owner becomes obsessed with tricking out his vehicle, to the extent of wiping out his kids' college fund to raise the cash, then he might be described as losing the plot. Yeah, he's admirably determined, and the car does look very cool. But he's lost all concept of what's actually important.

Mozilla have several grand aims, and there's much to be admired, but they've forgotten how to make a decent browser. I feel plenty of loyalty for them, because they've done more than anybody else to further the cause of open source software in the real world. But when I tried Chrome, as incomplete as it was, I realized I'd found a replacement for Firefox. As soon as it gets to beta under Linux, I will switch to Chrome. No question. It's just infinitely better. It's like when we all switched from Alta Vista (or Yahoo!) to Google back in the early noughties. The king is dead! Long live the king!

One thing is certain: Firefox is no longer the darling of the Internet digerati. Take a look at the comments on this Slashdot thread. There's a surprising amount of vitriol out there nowadays.

I'm just one guy, so why should Mozilla care? Why should they even care if a million people stop using their browser? After all, this is open source, and open source software is technology driven. That's why it's better than proprietary software. There's no pressing need to keep users sweet.

The problem for Mozilla is that its income comes from end-users. Every time you search using Firefox's built-in search, Mozilla gets a small cut. Multiply that by millions of searches every day and it adds up. Effectively, Google pays for Mozilla's continued existence, but without any of us using Firefox, Mozilla is up a creek without a paddle.

I fear that the Firefox project is a juggernaut that can't stop. It's got too much momentum and is determined to head in the direction it has chosen. In short, I honestly think it's too late. Despite the fact it's not really ready for human consumption, Chrome has won. Firefox is already dead. The only way the situation can be altered is for Mozilla to slam on the brakes, lean out of the window of the truck, apologize for going the wrong way, and turn around. But that's unimaginable.

You might disagree with me. But will you do me a favor? In two or three years time, when you're using Chrome (or maybe a forked project), will you come back here and admit I was right?
 

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Chrome underlines links, and you can't turn it off. I ******* hate underlined links. With all the extensions, customizations available, and not to mention that Firefox is open source--Google can take its browser elitism and shove it up its collective nerd asses.
 

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Originally Posted by DarkNWorn
Chrome underlines links, and you can't turn it off. I ******* hate underlined links. With all the extensions, customizations available, and not to mention that it's open source, Google can take its browser elitism and shove it up its collective nerd asses.
There will be an extension for that, I'm sure. Check the latest beta version, might be there now. Chrome is also open source: http://dev.chromium.org/ http://code.google.com/chromium/
Join us in an open-source browser project to help move the web forward Chromium is the open-source project behind Google Chrome. We're releasing a first look at Chromium and invite you to join us in our effort to: Help build a safer, faster, and more stable way for all Internet users to experience the web Create a powerful platform for developing a new generation of web applications Built for the open web All of the code in the project is open source, including V8, a new JavaScript virtual machine. You can get Chromium's source code and contribute to the project. Built by the web community \t Join our developer discussion groups to learn about Chromium and contribute to its future \t Make Chromium better by finding bugs and filing bug reports \t Submit patches for known bugs Ready to learn more? Read the documentation and follow the Getting Started guide.
 

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G-Mail is laughably hackable (impossible to report), that I wouldn't touch Chrome with a Brillo Pad.

BUT there is no equal to Google's search engine.
 

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Originally Posted by Steve B.
G-Mail is laughably hackable (impossible to report), that I wouldn't touch Chrome with a Brillo Pad.

BUT there is no equal to Google's search engine.


GMail is supposed to be hackable. That's why there are 3rd-party apps to add functionality. I don't know anyone who doesn't use GMail under the age of 30. It's more powerful and Outlook Exchange Server and it's free!

As the author of the above article said, you'll come around.
 

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so Chrome > Mozille Firefox? I need to switch soon.
 

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I've been trying to use Chrome. The underlined links are driving me bonkers. And what's up with not being able to move the tab bar to the bottom?

Chrome's got a long way to go. I'm 50% less efficient when I use it.
 

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Originally Posted by Aperipan
so Chrome > Mozille Firefox? I need to switch soon.
It depends. Chrome 1.0.xxx (Final Stable) is better than Firefox if: > You want the fastest browser. > You want the most stable browser. Firefox is flaky and all tabs in Chrome are separate apps, if one crashes the others are okay (Christmas lights effect). > You want the browser that uses the least amount of memory. > You want the browser with the smallest resource hit (perfect for older systems and those that have a lot of tabs open at once). > Use GMail and other dynamic (Java/Javascript/AJAX-based) sites. However, Chrome 1.0's advance customization options are almost non-existent, doesn't allow for third party extensions or toolbars. If you're used to FireFox, you'll miss it at first but quickly realize that you don't need 99% of the extensions you've downloaded. Chromium (the open-source development version which Chrome, the mass-usage version, is based off of) is fully customizable and made to be hacked for the good of Chrome development. In fact, it's not really a browser, you actually have to build and compile it from almost scratch! That's a great way to keep people that don't know what they're doing away from it. It's always in the state of a work in progress (which FireFox always feels like) and isn't stable for everyday usage from the general public (unless you make it stable yourself). Google had the sense to separate the two. The latest Chrome Beta (the browser between Chrome 1.0.xxx Final and Chromium) is super stable, faster than Final (which is already the fastest browser out) and allows extensions like FireFox. I'm using both and so far, so good. I like the Beta better and it seems to be as stable as Chrome Final 1.0, but there aren't too many extensions available yet, so we will see.
 

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Originally Posted by DarkNWorn
I've been trying to use Chrome. The underlined links are driving me bonkers. And what's up with not being able to move the tab bar to the bottom? Chrome's got a long way to go. I'm 50% less efficient when I use it.
Try the Beta, it allows for advance options that 1.0 doesn't and more extensions are coming (if the one you need isn't already out). 1.0's spell check is pretty marsupialed, that annoys me the most. Beta fixed that.
 

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Originally Posted by JoeWoah
GMail is supposed to be hackable. That's why there are 3rd-party apps to add functionality. I don't know anyone who doesn't use GMail under the age of 30. It's more powerful and Outlook Exchange Server and it's free!

As the author of the above article said, you'll come around.


How much is Google paying you?
 

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