Whey vs. Milk

Originally Posted by rjmaiorano

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OMG YO

I know! I know!
I own Eason and he still doesn't know it!
He's like some dumb blonde who post her pics on facebook and now demand I do so as well. If not, I am some fraud etc etc.

In the first place, Paris, I have never promised to post anything and I have never asked you to post anything. God! Some people are so clueless.

Originally Posted by why

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What window would that be?

The postworkout window as identified by pretty much any sports nutritionist you can name.

Unless you're going to claim Berardi et al are wrong.

I love whey + milk for the taste, but the ***** are absolutely adominable. I'll do it once a week, but every other day I'm doing water + whey, because the combination of the two wreaks havoc on my digestive system.

Milk: The New Sports Drink? A Review

lefty

Originally Posted by Brian SD

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I love whey + milk for the taste, but the ***** are absolutely adominable. I'll do it once a week, but every other day I'm doing water + whey, because the combination of the two wreaks havoc on my digestive system.

You are lactose intolerant.
What you can do: take milk with low lactose levels.
Do not mix excessive whey powder with milk.
After this, you should **** normally.
If not, take pills for lactose intolerance. Available everywhere.

Originally Posted by lefty

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Milk: The New Sports Drink? A Review

lefty

What is this?
The 'owned by beasty thread, please come in?'
Haha!

Originally Posted by beasty

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You are lactose intolerant.
What you can do: take milk with low lactose levels.
Do not mix excessive whey powder with milk.
After this, you should **** normally.
If not, take pills for lactose intolerance. Available everywhere.

In my case, either of the two alone causes no problems. I can drink milk, and I can take whey with water. But the two of them together... god save us all.

Originally Posted by beasty

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Wow. I can see you are real upset. I don’t know why. I mean I am just trying to be reconciliatory and extend an olive branch to you. I hope you can learn from your incorrect use of grammar so you can improve in future. But for you to snap back on ‘imaginary gym and pretend to lift weights’? That’s so uncalled for. I base my point on your poor command of the English language, which is evident for all to see but what do you base yours on? The fact I did not extend my photos to you? Wow! You are so incoherent and illogical. You blame me because I am smart enough not to be baited by you? Did it occurred to you that if I am a fraud, how would I know so much about bodybuilding? More than a ‘gym instructor’ like you? Muay Thai boy.
Upset on the internet I'm not the one posting paragraph after paragraph of fantasy flames trying to make myself feel better. Isn't it time for you to pretend to work out?

The 'owned by beasty thread, please come in?'

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You're so ******* delusional, there's a reason you're the joke of this forum.

Originally Posted by Eason

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I was expected a power clean

If I power cleaned 465 @ 185lbs. I'd be in the Olympics.

The plyo pull/bounce thing is a habit for any pull lift.

Originally Posted by James Bond

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The postworkout window as identified by pretty much any sports nutritionist you can name.

Unless you're going to claim Berardi et al are wrong.

No, I'm saying the idea that something needs to be consumed after the workout is wrong.

Originally Posted by why

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You're a dumbass.
No, try keeping your back straight rather than arching it.

Originally Posted by why

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No, I'm saying the idea that something needs to be consumed after the workout is wrong.

Then you are disagreeing with Berardi et al.

Do you HAVE to eat something after your workout? No, of course not. Is it optimal for progress and therefore the smart thing to do? Yes.

Originally Posted by username79

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No, try keeping your back straight rather than arching it.
It is straight and you're a fool. Deadlift is very anthropometrically dependent and people of different heights and genders will lift differently. There's an optimal joint angle and it's not the same for everyone.

Originally Posted by James Bond

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Then you are disagreeing with Berardi et al. Do you HAVE to eat something after your workout? No, of course not. Is it optimal for progress and therefore the smart thing to do? Yes.
If he actually said it had to be after a workout, then he's wrong and dumb. Digestion doesn't stop and start around working out. I don't understand why people think a workout is some kind of isolated entity that changes the body. Everything done -- eating, drinking, ********, walking, etc. engages so many different parts of the body that they all have an effect. When someone starts talking about hard and fast rules for weight loss/gain or strength/speed or what have you they always end up looking like fools because they can't see the forest for the trees. The post-workout window is a timeframe in which in the body recovers. Nutrients in the bloodstream from previous meals can be sufficient and the idea that a person needs to blast their body with protein and such after a workout is just wrong.

Originally Posted by why

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I don't understand why people think a workout is some kind of isolated entity that changes the body. Everything done -- eating, drinking, ********, walking, etc. engages so many different parts of the body that they all have an effect. When someone starts talking about hard and fast rules for weight loss/gain or strength/speed or what have you they always end up looking like fools because they can't see the forest for the trees.

The post-workout window is a timeframe in which in the body recovers. Nutrients in the bloodstream from previous meals can be sufficient and the idea that a person needs to blast their body with protein and such after a workout is just wrong.

But on a more practical terms, it's pretty hard for most to workout aggressively after a heavy meal or any meal for that matter. Given that I'll need cals at some point in the day, post WO seems like a reasonable good time to do take in a fair amount - even if that reason is a psychological reward for my hard work.

Most guys over think the **** out of WO nutrition - blame JB and t-nation - and would see better results if they just worked harder. They don't need fine-tuned nutrition. They just need food.

lefty

If you like milk, then it's fine. The only reason I can think of for choosing whey and water over milk is you just want the protein and no sugars or fats.

I drink a whey + skim milk shake every morning for breakfast, simply because it's easy and I'm never hungry in the morning to actually want to eat enough food with 30 grams of protein.

I agree with why on this, IMO the got to get whey in you within 20 minutes after a workout is bullshit. Unless you are starving yourself before your workout I guess, but who does that?

I'm not against supplements, but I go a different route. I pretty much only take spirulina/chlorella for the chlorophyll, antioxidants, and nutrition, and maca because it energizes me for a workout like nothing I have ever experienced before. I enjoy my morning whey shakes, but I can do without them really.