Photos of my Tom Ford RTW Suit

TheFoo · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by AvariceBespoke

I realize I am not Daniel Craig nor quite frankly do I want to be - I am just talking about the silhouette and style of suit

Yes, but the silhouette of the suit is significantly determined by the wearer's body. Daniel Craig has a very long torso; getting his silhouette will require more than picking the right suit.

If the tailor let out your waist, that explains a lot. Did they not have the next size up available? Maybe they were trying to push what they had. That, or perhaps the tailor's interpretation of Tom Ford is just tight all over.

The_Foxx · Dec 17, 2008

ah, i almost forgot in my rant to add another point-- what would happen if you had a tailor add a "strap" across the back under the vents? Kind of a silk or bemberg strip that bridges the two sides of the jacket. I'd be interested to see what experience others have had with this or if they recommend it, but I had this done on a couple of suits and it keeps everything nice and neat with a double vented jacket. I'm not sure if i asked for this or not, but I think it was added to two of my jackets.

zalb916 · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by AvariceBespoke

I like the way the suit looks here (I realize I am not Daniel Craig nor quite frankly do I want to be - I am just talking about the silhouette and style of suit)

Honest question. Do you really like the way the suit looks in the picture, or have you merely fallen for Daniel Craig's flawless use of a recycling bin to complement his outfit?

TheFoo · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by The_Foxx

ah, i almost forgot in my rant to add another point-- what would happen if you had a tailor add a "strap" across the back under the vents? Kind of a silk or bemberg strip that bridges the two sides of the jacket. I'd be interested to see what experience others have had with this or if they recommend it, but I had this done on a couple of suits and it keeps everything nice and neat with a double vented jacket. I'm not sure if i asked for this or not, but I think it was added to two of my jackets.

This sounds awfully un-kosher. If a jacket fits right, it shouldn't need this kind of modification.

zalb916 · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by The_Foxx

ah, i almost forgot in my rant to add another point-- what would happen if you had a tailor add a "strap" across the back under the vents? Kind of a silk or bemberg strip that bridges the two sides of the jacket. I'd be interested to see what experience others have had with this or if they recommend it, but I had this done on a couple of suits and it keeps everything nice and neat with a double vented jacket. I'm not sure if i asked for this or not, but I think it was added to two of my jackets.

I have this feature on one coat I own. I often have problems with flaring vents. It seems to really help on that particular coat.

Despos · Dec 17, 2008

The vent problem is two issues. It is cut as typical RTW and the cloth under the back vent is too shallow. The balance of the back is too long, thus the jacket sits on his hip and the vent opens. You can see from the side view the jacket hem is longer in the back, shorter in the front. If you lift the back of this jacket up, the vents will fall better and the front of the jacket will come down and lay against the body.

The problem here is he does not fit into this readymade silhouette. The balance issue will be there with most makers. The suit is what it is. No tailor can create a look from, or make a RTW something different than it already is.

Kuro · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by Despos

The vent problem is two issues. It is cut as typical RTW and the cloth under the back vent is too shallow. The balance of the back is too long, thus the jacket sits on his hip and the vent opens. You can see from the side view the jacket hem is longer in the back, shorter in the front. If you lift the back of this jacket up, the vents will fall better and the front of the jacket will come down and lay against the body.

The problem here is he does not fit into this readymade silhouette. The balance issue will be there with most makers. The suit is what it is. No tailor can create a look from, or make a RTW something different than it already is.

Waht about the shoulders? Can anything be done there? Thanks.

AvariceBespoke · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by mafoofan

Yes, but the silhouette of the suit is significantly determined by the wearer's body. Daniel Craig has a very long torso; getting his silhouette will require more than picking the right suit.

If the tailor let out your waist, that explains a lot. Did they not have the next size up available? Maybe they were trying to push what they had. That, or perhaps the tailor's interpretation of Tom Ford is just tight all over.

Yes it is determined by the wearer's body but also the alterations left the body of my suit baggy around my waist and shaped like a sack.

I wonder if the tailor, tailors based on his experience in the past at canali (using canali as example) and does not think about keeping the TF cut.

first they gave me 50R, then 52R (which obviously was relatively better but I mistakened relative improvement with absolute fit) I should of also did 54R - the trousers and coat would probably both look better

zalb916 · Dec 17, 2008

This is all very odd. There is always variation in sizing from maker to maker. I get that. I just can't comprehend a salesman at a place like TF originally handing you a 50R when you are really a 54R. He would have to be the worst salesman in NYC, and I just can't imagine someone like that being employed at TF. But what do I know? The whole story is just fishy, from the sizing issues, to the shifting attitude on the fit as the thread has progressed, the declaration of wanting to become a long-term customer of Longsdail without knowing anything about him, etc.

edmorel · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by zbromer

This is all very odd. There is always variation in sizing from maker to maker. I get that. I just can't comprehend a salesman at a place like TF originally handing you a 50R when you are really a 54R. He would have to be the worst salesman in NYC, and I just can't imagine someone like that being employed at TF. But what do I know? The whole story is just fishy, from the sizing issues, to the shifting attitude on the fit, etc.

This might be the only post in those whole thread that has made any sense.

TRINI · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by zbromer

I have this feature on one coat I own. I often have problems with flaring vents. It seems to really help on that particular coat.

This sounds AMAZING.

Can someone pm pics of how this works?

aragon765 · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by edmorel

This might be the only post in those whole thread that has made any sense.

+1

this thread is 14 pages of

voxsartoria · Dec 17, 2008

Originally Posted by edmorel

This might be the only post in those whole thread that has made any sense.

It might be time for me to post in this thread again.

- B

teddieriley · Dec 17, 2008

The fact that they had to let out the waist of the jacket says a lot - i.e. it was the wrong size to start with. Assuming you are set continuing with TF (or committed financially via store credit), starting with a 54R will likely be a better option. All the comments you are receiving with respect to shoulders, waist and vents (not to mention the pants) will likely be taken care of, and I imagine the suit will drape properly (to the extent it can, based on Despos' comments) when said and done.

CharlesAlexander · Dec 17, 2008

If you truly want a silhouette like Daniel Craig, your going to have to start going to the gym. A Tom Ford suit alone will not do the trick.

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