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Wes Bourne

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Originally Posted by Manton
OK, I'll bite. Fail how?

Manton, while I believe FNB has every right to commission fugly turnback cuffs to his liking, the mere fact that his master tailor Nino and himself agree that that configuration is the most correct and excruciatingly difficult way to execute them does not make it a fact. It is only 2 opinions (shared) vs. countless observations.

Damn Manton, I just now realized that you so badly want a direct response from FNB that you actually addressed a question to me. Let it go or seek help. Either way, you owe me: why are u-throats also known as Adelaides?

medwards, those bespoke (Cleverley?) Adelaide imitation brogues you posted last month iiirc on that other forum are awesome. Why are u-throats also known as Adelaides?
 

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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne
Manton, while I believe FNB has every right to commission fugly turnback cuffs to his liking, the mere fact that his master tailor Nino and himself agree that that configuration is the most correct and excruciatingly difficult way to execute them does not make it a fact. It is only 2 opinions (shared) vs. countless observations.

Wait, I thought you were going to explain how I failed.
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Damn Manton, I just now realized that you so badly want a direct response from FNB that you actually addressed a question to me. Let it go or seek help. Either way, you owe me: why are u-throats also known as Adelaides?
I asked one of the Cleverley guys this a long time ago, and he said he didn't know. Maybe they were popular in Adelaide, Australia 100 years ago. Maybe the original John Lobb had a mistress named Adelaide, and he named the style after her.
 

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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne
FNB, fugly turnback cuffs aside, I think you fail miserably in your attempt to substantiate your arguments. In your defense, you might not be the only one who does not realize how this thread played out. In accepting that I am not and will not be in the know, I have convinced myself that both Manton and FNB, along with other senior members are all part of some super secret organization and that their discussion of Greeks, ugly cuffs and railway stalking is codespeek for proper placement of satellites and troop movements.
Dear Wes, Take a step back with me. I was not trying to justify my cuffs, the thread was about something else entirely. The cuffs were merely an example of things people wanted to get made up and hadnt yet. The explanation of the cuffs were not my words, they were that of my tailor who is very knowledgeable. I do not consider myself a tailor, I do not dispense tailoring advice. True, the interest and decision to get cuffs were mine (and I like them) but I cant see that they are a big deal except to the extent that someone else wanted to make it a big deal. I am not part of any super secret anything on here, in many ways I get treated like an outsider. If my taking it all with some humor is a sign of aggression on my part, I dont know what to say, except that this subject isnt a big ego deal for me. Youre free to dislike my cuffs, frankly I want to be the only one wearing them, as long as you understand that when I lay down an explanantion, I have authority for it.
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I have seen the so-called "Flusser" version many many times, and this my first time seeing the FNB version. I don't know what that proves, if anything, but I would question FNB's contention that it is considered "junk in the industry."
 

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FWIW, the Duke evidently ordered the "Flusser" style. He is called many things, and rightly so, but I'm not sure if liking "junk" clothing is one of them.

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Originally Posted by zjpj83
I have seen the so-called "Flusser" version many many times, and this my first time seeing the FNB version. I don't know what that proves, if anything, but I would question FNB's contention that it is considered "junk in the industry."
Again, it was Nino Corvato who said that these Flusser cuffs were considered "junk" in the industry. He also said the other version were easier and cheaper to make and were thus more common, to the extent that turnbacks on sleeves are common at all.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
Wait, I thought you were going to explain how I failed.
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No Manton, fwiw, you are only failing yourself. Your
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From pics I've seen you post, you seem to be impeccably attired. Your self professed dowdyness actually exhudes the understated elegance FNB aspires to. I don't know who your tailor is, but I think your work with him has yielded great results.

Thank you for your honest attempt at answering my Adelaide question. I will continue with my quest for a definitive answer.

Btw, is there an affordable OTR version of the BlazerSuit (tm) in either a 36S or slim fitting 38S?
 

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Originally Posted by zjpj83
I have seen the so-called "Flusser" version many many times, and this my first time seeing the FNB version. I don't know what that proves, if anything, but I would question FNB's contention that it is considered "junk in the industry."

Must learn to express myself like zjpj83.
 

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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne
No Manton, fwiw, you are only failing yourself. Your
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Would it make me look better in your eyes if I said that he started it and he's the one who keeps it going? No? How about if I said that I actually have fun responding to his taunts? Worse?

Ok, then.

Btw, is there an affordable OTR version of the BlazerSuit (tm) in either a 36S or slim fitting 38S?
I am out of touch with the world of OTR clothing, but if you can find a blue suit with patch pockets, just swap the buttons for brown horn. A full set will cost less than $20, and viola.
 

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Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff
Again, it was Nino Corvato who said that these Flusser cuffs were considered "junk" in the industry.

He also said the other version were easier and cheaper to make and were thus more common, to the extent that turnbacks on sleeves are common at all.


Luke, I'm happy you have found your Yoda.
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I'm finishing a great Yankee lunch of martinis followed by a dry aged sirloin, and the thing that I love most about this thread us how it confirms how superior I am. Those of you who feel superior with me, raise your ferragamo linings!

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Wes Bourne

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Originally Posted by Manton
Would it make me look better in your eyes if I said that he started it and he's the one who keeps it going? No? How about if I said that I actually have fun responding to his taunts? Worse?

Ok, then.


Manton, in the highly unlikely event I should ever run into you on the train (I will not cross a border to make that happen) and recognize your headless self in all its dowdy splendor, I will come up to you and politely introduce myself and shake your hand. You are cool. If you try to grope me, I will bite you like a rabid dog.
 

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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne
If you try to grope me, I will bite you like a rabid dog.
That's not how he operates. GHB in your drink. You wake up in a tub of ice 12 hours later with your spleen removed and your feet are strangely sore.
 

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Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff
Yeah, who would believe any of these jackets were junk?

The style is certainly not to my taste, any more than your suit is.
 

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