Vietnamese Cuisine.

why · Sep 24, 2008

I like it, but it's not my favorite overall. The French still make a better broth and baguette, but I like the added spiciness.

Durian kicks ass though.

tbone226 · Sep 24, 2008

Originally Posted by MetroStyles

Speaking of pho/Vietnamese, where can I get tasty pho etc. in NYC? Not interested in gourmet, interested in authentic.

Saigon Grill. Theres one on 90th and Amsterdam and another at University Place and 11th.

DNW · Sep 24, 2008

Originally Posted by playdohh22

I noticed that many of them are run by Chinese people, rather the Vietnamese themselves.

Yeah, many of the Vietnamese restaurants in the NYC area are run by Chinese-Vietnamese. The flavors are very close, but just don't seem quite there. Since I'm new to the area, I'm still on the quest to find the perfect Pho and Banh Mi.

jpeirpont · Sep 24, 2008

I'm just getting aquiantied with, it is neck and neck with Thai as my favorite Asian food.

DNW · Sep 24, 2008

Originally Posted by lee_44106

Extra large bowel with extra sides of sliced raw beef and other beef products. Throw in the bean sprouts and all that basil leaves and squirt in those lime wedges. Yum!

Sounds like another fetish that only Edmorel can explain.

Nahmeanz · Sep 24, 2008

never found any good vietnamese food places in nyc, adequate but not good. they have a few good banh mi spots tho.

LabelKing · Sep 24, 2008

If I recall, The Slanted Door is a kind of fusion restaurant.

There are a lot of Vietnamese dive-y places in the Bay Area. However, they don't seem to be located in San Francisco; rather, many of them are in the Silicon Valley area.

That Tully place is a good example although there are differences in quality in the restaurants.

Renault78law · Sep 24, 2008

There's excellent Vietnamese food in Oakland's Chinatown.

I agree with the others that say Slanted Door is not real Vietnamese.

Manton · Sep 24, 2008

Slanted Door is fusion, but the chef/owner is Vietnamese and Vietnamese food is the foundation, as it were. It's a concept restaurant, and Phan is something of a celebrity chef, and celebrity chefs these days scoff at doing traditional cuisine from any country. They have to add their own twist.

As mentioned earlier, the Tenderloin has a lot of Vietnamese dives. There are also some in the Mission, which is where Slanted Door started.

And, did I mention, it's really goooooooooood.

itsstillmatt · Sep 24, 2008

I agree the Slanted Door is great. It had kind of a down period right when it opened in the new location, but now it is as good as ever.

LabelKing · Sep 24, 2008

I find Vietnamese cuisine slightly interesting as it seems to combine what are considered two of the most "prestigious" cuisines in the world, French and Chinese, in a relatively simple way. Certainly, the food doesn't seem to require the kind of dexterity or complexity of either traditional French or Chinese cuisine.

dizzhizz · Sep 24, 2008

+1 for pho and those ******* sandwiches!

A Y · Sep 24, 2008

Originally Posted by Manton

Slanted Door is fusion, but the chef/owner is Vietnamese and Vietnamese food is the foundation, as it were. It's a concept restaurant, and Phan is something of a celebrity chef, and celebrity chefs these days scoff at doing traditional cuisine from any country. They have to add their own twist.

As mentioned earlier, the Tenderloin has a lot of Vietnamese dives. There are also some in the Mission, which is where Slanted Door started.

And, did I mention, it's really goooooooooood.

I think the various Momofuku in NYC do fairly true Asian food, but are still kind of conceptual. The difference is that their conceptuality highlights native features rather than trying to fuse them with an alien cuisine (not that there's anything wrong with that). Have you had a chance to try them?

Also, any suggestions for Tenderloin restaurants? I was wandering around there once looking for an Indian restaurant, and witnessed a public cheering of someone running the wrong way on a one-way street trying to evade a police car that had been chasing him from the previous block. That's probably not the best place to look lost.

--Andre

DNW · Sep 24, 2008

Originally Posted by LabelKing

I find Vietnamese cuisine slightly interesting as it seems to combine what are considered two of the most "prestigious" cuisines in the world, French and Chinese, in a relatively simple way. Certainly, the food doesn't seem to require the kind of dexterity or complexity of either traditional French or Chinese cuisine.

Many Vietnamese dishes are also close to Thai cuisine in terms of flavors and ingredients.

As for the Chinese and French influence, it's difficult culturally and economically for a dominated people to fully emulate the excesses of their conquerors.

Lel · Sep 24, 2008

Vietnamese food is excellent.

Unfortunately most the items you find in restaurants, Vietnamese people don't actually eat on a regular basis, except for pho perhaps.

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