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Zee's Leatherware & Shoe Co.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Toiletduck, Aug 4, 2008.

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  1. simchi

    simchi New Member

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    Good result. I picked up my pair today, GY-welted, danite-soled.
    Fits well and after wearing it for a bit today there weren't any issues so far, although I can relate with previous posters about insole lining and lack of cushioning.

    Boots were $2300HKD.

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  2. bamboo

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    simchi

    Thanks for the photo. It looks very nice. I am thinking of getting something for my wife. It is not easy to find a combination of right design, color and size, because her size is quite small.
     
  3. Mmmanmkii

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    I just had a new pair made from them.

    Wasn't too sure what I was getting myself into so I decided to be conservative and went for something simple and in black. This was the first time I tried them but the results seemed alright.

    In terms of quality I would say it is certainly a lot better then what you would get at M&S in Hong Kong or even a pair of $3000HKD Clarks, but the important thing for me was that I was getting decent leather with sturdy GY welting and not corrected grain which is what retail stores have most of the time (at least for that price range).

    Though one thing that stands out is that some of the finishing seemed a bit rough, so a bit of polishing is in order once you bring them home.

    Cost-wise it was $1700, with extra cushioning, single leather sole with a layer of rubber on it and GY welting. So far it is quite comfortable, again much better then the retail store stuff.

    Overall I am a happy customer and it is pretty good value for money.

    Without further ado here are some photos;

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    These are the shoes with some quick 3 minute polishing work done on them once I got home.



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    One of the shoes with a few (I think 3 or 4 layers?) of polish on it, going to work on the other one later.


    Though part of me is itching to redye these reddish brown for some reason.
     
  4. blackers

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    I'm looking to get some work shoes from Zee's, just a couple of questions:

    1) Somone mentioned GY welt is not standard, you have to ask. Does it cost extra?
    2) Dainite soles - do they cost extra compared to leather?
    3) Insole cushioning seems a common issue. Can you just ask him to add extra padding?
    3) I like brogues but mrclam had issues with the quality of their hole punching. But simchi's boots look great. What are other people's experiences? Trying to get an idea of their "strike rate".
     
  5. Svenn

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    Quality is good but my boots came out kinda ugly because I gave him a bad last to work with. I'm gonna have a bespoke shoe maker back here in the US make a better custom last for me and even a cork sole, so Zee's knows more specifically what I want the sole to look like. Thinking of sending it over to Nurulaeff after that for patina.
     
  6. Mmmanmkii

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    Well good thing its tea time for me at work in HK so I got some free time, and since I'm the most recent customer of theirs on this thread I guess it is up to me to answer your questions!

    1). Yup, GY is not standard. You will have to ask specifically for it and it didn't cost me any extra. However it will take longer for them to make the shoes. Usually if you request GY welting it would take them 1 week after the first initial fitting (with the canvas shoe) for the shoes to be made.

    2). They do have a regular supply of Danite soles now. When I went for my shoes to be made they said it was one of the sole options, but since I went for single leather sole instead I didn't really ask them too much about it.

    3). I actually tried on one of their demo shoes just to get a feel of the shoes before ordering a pair. You would notice that the inside of the shoes are a bit bone-bare when you take a look inside of the shoe. The demo's standard (lack of) cushioning really wasn't too bad actually, but I asked for extra padding anyways. I have to say that the pair I got is a lot more comfortable than your average off the shelf retail shoes, especially after conditioning, cream/wax polishing + a day or so of normal wear.

    4). The brogues on their demo shoes look alright. I think as long as you don't ask for anything too complicated then you should be ok.

    Just one thing to look out for is that the coloring on the edges of the soles seem to come off a bit easily or seemed a bit thin, so just tell them to add on another layer unless you like touching up the edges the shoe soles yourself. Also another thing is that when you get the shoes, you will notice that the polish that they have on it sucks. If you really want to make them look good you will have to get some moisten a towel with some warm water and gently wipe the top layer off before you do anything to them.

    And for those who are interested, Zee's also make bags. Some of them actually look pretty nice and his son will be all too happy to show you all the different bag demos that they have in the store. The bags cost $1800HKD to $2200HKD if you want to use thick leather.

    Made to order leather wallets are $500 if I recall correctly.

    I actually ordered another pair from Zee's last week (going ahead with re-dyeing my last pair brown) and I'm getting it picked up tomorrow (pair of black one piece leather shoes), so I'll ask them about the Danite soles when I see them tomorrow afternoon for you.


    EDIT: Just wondering about the Lee's tailor around the corner from Zee's. The times I went there they seemed pretty popular so I'm wondering if anyone here has had experience with them and roughly how much they charge for a suit?
     
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  7. blackers

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    Brilliant, thanks for the info. I live in Hong Kong so they can take as long as they like to make the shoes.

    I was looking in M&S today and their "Savile Row Inspired" line of dress shoes with GY welting (it says so on the sole!) are going for $1900 now so at $1700 Zee's is a bargain.

    I bought a satchel from them last year, I did look long and hard at their beautiful custom ones but they had some OTR Italian ones on clearance at 1/3rd the price which were almost as good so economic reality won out.

    I like the idea of a custom wallet too. Maybe as a Christmas present for someone, although it is a bit hard to give a custom item as a surprise.
     
  8. TheTukker

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    That's an interesting, but somewhat involved (and expensive?), approach to get Zee's shoes. Does Zee carry the higher end hides? Would it not be worth your while to look into Vass (where you may get a better quality product, but may not be bespoke)?
     
  9. Svenn

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    It actually isn't that bad, I think Zee's boots were around $350/400 US; the last hopefully will be about the same, and the patina only a couple hundred... bespoke shoes in the US start at around $1500 and you could wait 8 months for it. Zee's value is their speed. No higher end hides when I was there. I have too many weird requests to go with RTW shoes.
     
  10. Fishball

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    haha, they are not his sons!
     
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    If you mean the upper, actually their upper calf is high end, they are french calf from Tannerie d'Annonay.
     
  13. blackers

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    They are called Lee Baron, the proprietor is Peter Lee. Plenty of discussion of them on the Hong Kong tailors thread on this forum. Basically they are well regarded on these forums as a good value mid-priced tailor for suits and shirts. I recently got quoted $5500 for a fully canvassed suit in VBC 110 material. It would cheaper for half canvas.
     
  14. TheTukker

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    Interesting - many thanks.
     
  15. Mmmanmkii

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    So I asked them about the cost of Danite soles today when I went to pick up my shoes.

    Danite soles will cost you an extra $100HKBucks, which really isn't that much to be honest.

    Also the shoes I ordered came out great. The black lining on the edges of the soles are much much better this time around. For $1700HKD I could really do a lot worse, considering M&S shoes go from 1200-1900 and Clarks from 1300-3000, I'd be hard pressed to find better for that price in my opinion.

    EDIT: Went around polishing the shoes a bit and here's some photos:

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    Top picture is a comparison shot. The shoe on the right in the picture is the shoe with the shop polish rubbed off with some water. The one on the left is the shoe after a bit of polish.

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    Both shoes with some polish. I think they would look even better after I add on another layer before I head of to work tomorrow morning. Also the photos were taken without flash in case anyone is wondering.
     
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    Some of my existing M&S dress shoes need resoling and I'd like to change them to Dainites if possible. A Google search suggest that no shoe repairers in Hong Kong stock Dainite soles. But Zee's does. So:

    1) Does anyone know if Zee's will sell you just a pair of Dainite soles?
    2) If I managed to get a pair of Dainite soles and took them to a shoe repairer (say, Shing Do in Pedder Lane) would they use them?
     
  17. Fishball

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    Just ask Zee to resole it for you.
     
  18. blackers

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    They'll do that? That's much simpler than my complex plan. Thanks Fishball, I suspected you might have the answer to this one!
     
  19. Fishball

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    Yes, they do resole.
    Just tell Zee that fishball told you to come. :smarmy:
     
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  20. blackers

    blackers Active Member

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    They actually know you as Fishball?!

    I can just see it now -
    "Fishball said you will resole my shoes"
    "What did he say?"
    "I don't know, something about a talking fishball. I think he's high."
     

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