Zee's Leatherware & Shoe Co.

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  1. benjamin831

    benjamin831 Senior member

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    The soles are exactly the same as my previous wingtips.

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    It's impossible to find dainite in Hong Kong.

    I took the laces of a pair of Lobbs that I never wore. A pair of 2006 Vintages in gray. Might go on sale :p
     


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    nice job ben. now you need to work on zee for the seamless back
     


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    Got a quick question regarding buying shoelaces in Hong Kong. Does anybody know where I can find flat waxed laces? I've tried looking for it in a couple of places around the island, including the alley behind Shanghai Tang but failed to find any.

    I haven't actually purchased from this place, but here is an online store that sells flat waxed laces (in addition to Saphir polish):

    http://www.valmour.com/cleaning-prod...ces-saphir,497

    Also, as Fishball said, flat waxed laces are quite commonly available in Japan (well, at least in Tokyo), so if you happen to find yourself there you should make sure that you stock up!
     


  4. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Hmmm.. how to said... folded edge is easy, the edge of the upper is "folded" over, as in this shoe: [​IMG]
    Sorry, I don't think so. From what I can see in the photo, this is a bound edge. A folded edge on a whole cut would be difficult...not impossible...but extremely difficult and perhaps even hard to justify.
     


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    Also go for beading instead of common folded edge, IMHO.

    What do you mean by beading/common folded edge? I've never heard of those terms before.

    That is a folded edge:

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    Here are other ways to treat the edge:

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    The folded edge might be a b****, if done by hand, but it is incredibly easy with the right machine.

    When I did a course (some twelve years ago) at London's Cordwainer's College, that skiving, folding and gluing the tape machine was my absolute favourite of all the machinery there.
     


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    From those of you with experience, would I be better off picking up a pair of shoes from Zee's next month when I'm in Hong Kong or should I just go for a pair of OTR Allen Edmonds (etc.). I have a relatively difficult foot to match in dress shoes...wide feet all the way from arch to toes. I wear a 10E in AE, but they are a little loose at the heel. I play soccer 2-3 times per week and am on my feet in court sometimes hours on end which can be uncomfortable with a poorly fitting shoe. Any recs based on quality/comfort would be helpful.
     


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  8. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    That is a folded edge: [​IMG] Here are other ways to treat the edge: [​IMG] The folded edge might be a b****, if done by hand, but it is incredibly easy with the right machine. When I did a course (some twelve years ago) at London's Cordwainer's College, that skiving, folding and gluing the tape machine was my absolute favourite of all the machinery there.
    The more I look at it the more I am convinced that the edge in the photo above is a bound edge...a and b in Thornton's figure 73 illustration above. It's hard to tell from the photo but I've done folded edges--quite a lot of them (I have a unique method of doing them by hand which is quite easy and extremely accurate)---and they are flat edges..as seen in a of figure 72. The edge in the photo protrudes significantly from the surface of the quarter and that simply will not happen with a properly done folded edge. The reason it is so difficult with a whole cut is that there is no way to create enough excess to fold all the way down into the bottom/"v" of the facings...leastwise not any way I know of. Truth to tell, without a special blocking board...one that runs the risk of marring the finish...you can't even get close.
     


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    Very tempting indeed.

    Planning a trip down to HK in Sept and wasn't looking forward to anything other than the food until I read this thread.

    Should I head down to both Zee's and Lily's Shoes or just to Zee's straight?
     


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    And as promise:

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    like them a lot.
     


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    Will be in hk next week for a week or so and I've made up my mind that Zees will be the very first place I go. What time do they open? (don't wanna end up dragging the gf there too early and find out it's closed)

    Thinking of making a belt and maybe check out their briefcases while I'm there making shoes. How much should I budget myself?

    Really like how all the shoes posted turned out btw. First time making MTO shoes so what do you guys think I should make as my trial shoe? A wholecut or a captoe medallion? Is it even possible to customize my medallion too?

    Thanks in advance guys. I've much to learn.
     


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    Is it even possible to customize my medallion too?

    Yes, but better to give them the real size pattern rather than just a photo.
     


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    Yes, but better to give them the real size pattern rather than just a photo.

    Thanks Fishball. I'm all too new to this. Where can I browse and get a real size patterns? I don't think I'm artistic enough to draw my own...
     


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    Zee's opens at 9:30 - 7pm

    but best time to got is mid morning or mid afternoon to make sure you get the younger of the Zee bro's
     


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    Thanks Fishball. I'm all too new to this. Where can I browse and get a real size patterns? I don't think I'm artistic enough to draw my own...

    I don't know, but one thought come to my mind.
    Go to take some pics of the captoe medallion patterns (top view) that you like, and then print them out to actual size. I think it should work
     


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