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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by ernest, Feb 25, 2005.

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  1. ernest

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    (ernest @ Feb. 25 2005,22:08)
    The differences are probably minor between our best selling style
    Are you selling jeans?
    I sell jeans for a living. Â I sell jeans to the stores that customers go to buy them.
    I imagine only CK?
     
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    The differences are probably minor between our best selling style
    Are you selling jeans?

    I sell jeans for a living. Â I sell jeans to the stores that customers go to buy them.
    I imagine only CK?
    yes Also, the Calvin Klein jeans you find in Europe are very different than the Calvin Klein Jeans sold in North and South America. The company that has the license to produce Calvin Klein Jeans in Europe is completely seperate from the company that has the license to produce Calvin Klein Jeans in North and South America.
     
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    Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
     
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    I think I am going to die laughing...
     
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    most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein. As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies. This is true with many many designers.  He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies.  In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans.  Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product.  That he leaves to people with more experience.
     
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    why am i putting myself through this?
     
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    (ernest @ Feb. 25 2005,22:23) Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
    most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein. Â As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies. Â This is true with many many designers. Â He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies. Â In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans. Â Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product. Â That he leaves to people with more experience.
    Does Levis make his jeans at least?
     
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    Die, nobody will notice the difference,  but please do it in silence.

    Isn't it rather "I am dying..." or "I will die...."

    Intsead of "I am going to..."?
     
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    Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
    most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein. Â As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies. Â This is true with many many designers. Â He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies. Â In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans. Â Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product. Â That he leaves to people with more experience.
    Does Levis make his jeans at least?
    sort of Very few clothing manufacturers actually make their product themselves, because they do not own the factories that produce their goods They all work with factories who make the garments for them. Therefore the same factory who makes Levi's may make Calvin Klein Jeans too. In fact I believe some do. Levi's controls all aspects of the product except the actual cutting and sewing of the garment. That they contract out to a factory who does that for them.
     
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    Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
    most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein. Â As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies. Â This is true with many many designers. Â He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies. Â In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans. Â Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product. Â That he leaves to people with more experience.

    Does Levis make his jeans at least?
    sort of Very few clothing manufacturers actually make their product themselves, because they do not own the factories that produce their goods  They all work with factories who make the garments for them.  Therefore the same factory who makes Levi's may make Calvin Klein Jeans too.  In fact I believe some do. Levi's controls all aspects of the product except the actual cutting and sewing of the garment.  That they contract out to a factory who does that for them.
    So Levis has not his own factories with people paid by Levis?
     
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    In that case, please let me have the final say. Ernest, actually, topcatnyc is lying.  Calvin makes all the jeans himself, all the way from weaving the yarn on manual shuttle looms (he does not make the yarn himself, that is the only reason why the denim is not double ring spun  [​IMG] ) to the final laundering, final resin treatments if any were needed, and pressing.  Every single pair, made with love, and thinking about a young Brooke Shields all the time.  Levi's 501's are inferior because, unfortunately, Levi Strauss died after a very long life (up until the 80's, he was still clomp, clomp, clomping away on the looms), and his apprentices unfortunately had not yet mastered his artisanal techniques.  Not no funny story: Calvin and Levi had a fight because Calvin was becoming famous but refused to acknowledge that Levi was his early master, and it nearly broke Levi's heart.  Plus he was very old, so he lost.  Now you know everything there is to know about jeans.
     
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    Licence? Do you mean it is not even made by CK?
    most calvin Klein lines are not actually produced by Calvin Klein. Â As a matter of fact i think all of them are produced by other companies. Â This is true with many many designers. Â He does the designing, but actually producing the garments is the responsibility of other companies. Â In Europe a company called Fratini has the license to produce and market Calvin Klein Jeans. Â Calvin Klein still has a lot of control over the final look of the product but he does not want to get involved in the actual making of the product. Â That he leaves to people with more experience.

    Does Levis make his jeans at least?

    sort of Very few clothing manufacturers actually make their product themselves, because they do not own the factories that produce their goods  They all work with factories who make the garments for them.  Therefore the same factory who makes Levi's may make Calvin Klein Jeans too.  In fact I believe some do. Levi's controls all aspects of the product except the actual cutting and sewing of the garment.  That they contract out to a factory who does that for them.
    So Levis has not his own factories with people paid by Levis?
    they did for sometime, but I think they sold the last one recently. I could be wrong though. If i am they only one 1 or 2 factories these days. Clearly their direction which is the same as almost all designers is that they do not want to own their own factories.
     
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    You're completely correct on Levi Strauss. They've only shifted overseas in the last 5 years or so. Many think this a primary cause of their loss in market share.

    Ernest, LAG, yet another fit o' farts?
     
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