Yoox - which are your favorite unknown brands?

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  1. michaeljkrell

    michaeljkrell Senior member

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    I knew I was getting a small, I just wish it was on the larger end.
     


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    ^ Which one did you get? If they're OOS, you can always sell it to me. [​IMG]
     


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    That's because Yoox routinely screws up pant sizing. Usually a '36' means a Euro size 46. Which is to say, small.

    They specify what the manufacturer's tag says. 46Eu is just that (30 waist or thereabouts). If it is in jean's sizing, or "universal sizing," that is obvious as well. Of course, brands do vary in sizing conventions, but that is just life, right?
     


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    ^ Which one did you get? If they're OOS, you can always sell it to me. [​IMG]

    No, they are still available, so you can get them right from yoox...
     


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    I wouldn't say it's a screw-up. They are an Italian company, so it makes sense that they would use European conventions. The world doesn't revolve around America and its conventions...

    It is an error. When using the US site it shows the "converted size". So it will list a pair of size 46(italian) as a size 36(US), when in reality it is a size 30(US). Their size-conversion method is wrong.
     


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    It is an error. When using the US site it shows the "converted size". So it will list a pair of size 46(italian) as a size 36(US), when in reality it is a size 30(US). Their size-conversion method is wrong.

    They don't convert to jeans sizing, but rather use "suit" sizing. A EU46 equals a US36, so Yoox is correct. And even when they convert the size, they still list what the actual tag says as well.
     


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    It is an error. When using the US site it shows the "converted size". So it will list a pair of size 46(italian) as a size 36(US), when in reality it is a size 30(US). Their size-conversion method is wrong.

    It is not an error. They just happen to use Italian suit sizing for dressier pants (hence the need to deduct 10+6=16 from the listed suit size) and regular US pants sizing for some others.
     


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    That's because Yoox routinely screws up pant sizing. Usually a '36' means a Euro size 46. Which is to say, small.
    A french 46 is a german 50 is a us 34jeans is a 40R ... Italians usualy have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ...
     


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    Yoox just added a bunch of MOMA shoes.
     


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    It is not an error. They just happen to use Italian suit sizing for dressier pants (hence the need to deduct 10+6=16 from the listed suit size) and regular US pants sizing for some others.

    Babar and Whacked have it right. They do use the US suit size; it's probably because that's what's often reported on the labels. For many Italian manufactured trousers, they report on the label the Italian suit size for the trousers, the US suit size, and possibly the Japanese size (if it's for export to Japan or internationally). For non-Americans, we don't expect trouser sizing to always be reported in US jeans sizing...
     


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    They would be right if every suit had a drop 6 - but they don't. North American conventions (ie. the NA versions of the yoox site) would be more correct listing a 46eu as a size 30, since that is what they are.

    In any case, I know I wouldn't go in to a store and ask for a pair of pants based on my suit size. So it's still a problem/minor nuissance, in my mind.
     


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    They would be right if every suit had a drop 6 - but they don't. North American conventions (ie. the NA versions of the yoox site) would be more correct listing a 46eu as a size 30, since that is what they are.

    In any case, I know I wouldn't go in to a store and ask for a pair of pants based on my suit size. So it's still a problem/minor nuissance, in my mind.


    It is much more confusing when a retailer makes up his own convention, which may or may not be generally I actually wrote to Yoox several times before they changed to their current system. In the older system, they did as you said, and "converted" everything to a US approximation. Unfortunately, they did not state the designer sizing. This caused mass confusion, since there are disagreements about what size EU corresponds to what size US corresponds to what size in the French system. It's much better to just state the size given by the designer, and let the consumer educate himself on both the sizing conventions and the foibles of that particular designer.
     


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    It's complicated further by the fact that Yoox itself is inconsistent in how they list & translate sizes. I ordered a suit last year on final sale that they listed as a 46 Euro/36 American. In fact, it was a 56/46. It took nearly 2 weeks of wrangling with them to get them to admit the mistake and accept the return.
     


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