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Yohji, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Looser Fit (Yohji Yamamoto Thread)

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Ivwri, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. PregnantBob

    PregnantBob Senior member

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    What's the pricing like on second hand gear in the tokyo stores? it's getting to winter in Sydney and I really really want a coat and jacket from AW12
     
  2. Ivwri

    Ivwri Senior member

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    Definitely interested in getting an idea of pricing as well. If Drew was cool with browsing that place would be nice to get an idea of the kinds of things they have in stock.

    Also, I hope that al the MoK in YY posts were not taken as being too pressuring, lol. I am sure he will only pick up what works for him if at all, can't hold back the opinions though :).



    At my brother's wedding one of our Japanese friend's wore a raw silk kimono that her grandfather made for her himself. Was so beautiful. Would like to see some pics of yours for sure.
     
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    I will get them out to air soon anyway (they have been folded away all winter) so I will ask my wife to take some pics...

    For anyone thinking of buying vintage Japanese clothing to mix with their Yohji etc., I should point out that older Japanese stuff tends to be pretty small by western standards and vintage hakama, kimono and haori will rarely fit the average westerner - although if you are wearing hakama in a contemporary fashion, they seem to be worn somewhat shorter than was traditional. Luckily, I am pretty small, and my wife's great uncle appears to have been about my height (one of the reasons her aunt gave them to me).
     
  4. Ivwri

    Ivwri Senior member

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    So, on my way to Berlin I met Wim Wenders and his wife at the airport!

    I noticed his wife first, but I didn't recognize her. I just noticed she was carrying a Y'sacc bag which was pretty rare so I looked at her outfit and was discussing with my wife about whether it was Yohji or not. It looked very Yohji, but I couldn't identify it. As I was about to settle on the fact that it was probably all Yohji and how cool it was to see someone else wearing Yohji in the wild, Wim Wenders walked up and sat down beside her. Also in head to toe Yohji. I was so shocked. Didn't get a picture unfortunately because my going up to greet them also caused someone else to come round and hand him a music CD, heh, but I did get him to autograph my brand new moleskine notebook :D.

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    Anyway, was a very auspicious start to our Berlin trip. They both looked amazing in Yohji with Wim Wenders wearing high-waisted pants, a blue (beautiful shade) fleece top and suspenders under a jacket and his wife had this amazing coat on top of a smaller jacket and a distressed sheer top with embroidered patches on the front and a great scarf. Both of their outfits really looked like they had aged wonderfully and they were all this boiled wool looking fabric. His wife was really friendly and has a great smile.
     
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  5. robinsongreen68

    robinsongreen68 Senior member

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    good stuff ivwri! his wife, donata, is a photographer, i've never met her but people who have tell me she's lovely.
    haven't liked any of wim's films for ages, but wings of desire is brilliant.
     
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  6. Ivwri

    Ivwri Senior member

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    I have only seen a few of his documentaries actually - Notebook on Cities..., Buena Vista Social Club and Pina. Really loved the last two as they both introduced me to artists that were never really on my radar and they had excellent cinematography. I like Notebook, but I do think his experiment with digital and analog filming techniques got a bit long in the tooth during the film. He has a great eye for a photo though.

    I think I have seen a few of his wife's photographs online before as well. They looked great together though. Him the seemingly serious intellectual type and her more easygoing and charming.
     
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    A great thread, and now Wim Wenders too - you are so lucky to have met him like this. Both Wings of Desire and The End of Violence are among my favourite films...
     
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    It's really hard to say, pricing varies quite a lot depending on piece and re-seller. The best thing is that condition is almost always impeccable across the board. There are definitely deals to be had though, but you gotta have a lot of luck (and put in a lot of time). There's a decent amount in rotation but the good stuff sells out pretty much in two-three days or the very same day. Which means you have to check quite often to have a good chance at finding the good stuff. It's pretty much impossible to proxy.

    This sounds lovely! Any pics?

    Also that's an amazing story, that you met Wim Wenders by chance! I wish you could've snapped a picture of the two of them. I absolutely love Paris, Texas and I like some of his earlier films. Still haven't seen Wings of Desire. I recently saw Lightning over Water and didn't find it that great, same with Notebook... though I prefer the latter for obvious reasons. Really really want to see Pina too. I also share his love for Ozu, possibly my favorite director.
     
  9. Ivwri

    Ivwri Senior member

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    Well, looks like I have to save any of that Yohji thrifting till I manage to organize a trip to Japan! :D

    As for the kimono, here's one pic of her in the kimono next to my brother. Not the best pic for showing the detail, but it really looked great in person. The raw silk texture gave it that oomph.

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  10. Ivwri

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    With all the traveling I had to find a way of folding my hakama pants without ruining the pleats altogether and having to steam them out when I get anywhere. Here are two that seem to be useful (about to try them out!). I guess the kendo practitioners could chime in here?

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  11. Ivwri

    Ivwri Senior member

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    Some more pics

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    Really tempted by this jacket because of the line of embroidered patches at the bottom at the back of the jacket, but I think overall it might be a bit much...If only it didn't have the upper arm patches as well.

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    Might go for this if it is not too warm. Wonder what the fabric is.

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    get a tie from yyph, love it[​IMG]

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    Some photos of Yohji's work by Sarah Moon.

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    Ivwri Senior member

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    Excerpts from a review of the book, Japanese Fashion Designers by Tove Hermanson. The full review can be seen here along with photos and is well worth a read. So is the book if you have the opportunity.

     
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    ivwri, if you have a picture of the back of the hakama pants, i might be able to help you more. i have not actually seen the hakama pants in person, so i don't know if the construction is significantly different from that of an actual hakama (though I would assume the pants have two separate pant legs, rather than being a single piece...). it is mostly about laying the pants out flat and pressing out any creases after wear. I fold my hakama after every single practice in the fashion shown in the video. you just lay it flat, layer the pleats as it was originally and try to make sure the sides of the hakama run perfectly vertical and not at an angle. this is to ensure that you are not moving the pleats and are maintaining the original lines of the hakama.

    as in the video, you should ensure that the pleats remain sharp by pressing it out after each wear. if you find that the pleats are being lost after each wear, another option would be to iron them. some people do this, but i choose not to because it gives the hakama a shiny sheen, which really detracts from the aesthetic of the kendogi (just wearing a very nice, VERY dark hakama makes your kendo look like it went up a dan level!)

    if you want a pictorial guide on top of the video:

    http://www.kendo-usa.org/reference/hakama_fold.htm
     
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  16. Ivwri

    Ivwri Senior member

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    I'll do some pics tomorrow and post 'em up. Thanks for the offer and the additional guide as well.

    And yeah, I figured as much that the main thing is to keep them straight on the sides. Will try out the method in the vids and see if that works. So far, I just steam out the wrinkles instead of ironing and that has worked very well so far. But yeah, being able to fold them properly would help a lot as well.
     
  17. PregnantBob

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    You know, I've realised something.

    Most of us have completely ignored Y-3. I managed to scored a pair of the 10th anniversary Red Combat Boot sneakers when my girlfriend bought me a pair from Colette in Paris... but aside from that... I can't really say I've paid much attention.

    Let's discuss.
     
  18. Lionheart Biker

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    I once saw a pic of this awesome Y-3 jacket that had like this adding and subtracting thing (or it was with phrases, I don´t remember very well) and then it ended with " = Y-3". I thought it was a nice play on words. Sucks that I can´t find the picture of said jacket anywhere online :(
     
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    Y-3 has the label plastered over everything and looks to "athletic"
     
  20. Lionheart Biker

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    It´s supposed to be athletic.
     

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