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Yohji, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Looser Fit (Yohji Yamamoto Thread)

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Ivwri, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. surver

    surver Well-Known Member

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    hi all, by any chance any of you might have this pair of SS12 hakamas in size 2 or 3 in black wool gaberdine or linen-blend that you're willing to let go of? or know of anyone that has a pair in good condition that's willing to sell them to me? been looking ALL over for them with no luck... the YYPH code is HB-P41-xxx. thanks!

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  2. davidlee388

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    I have you to thank for getting this blazer, I wouldn't have recognized the handstitched details ( hence the season and bidded high for it ) had I not bought yours first. Do you think this could be the one worn by Vivienne ( with the collar detached ) with white shirt/red tie and matching black pants on the Runway?

    I still have those vintage Matsuda pieces in storage & those spectacles/braces/arm clippers were amazing. So were its Lookbooks :)
    For the record, I was joking about being Bruce Lee's relation, I wish! But I am a big big fan :)
     
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  3. the shah

    the shah Senior member

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    ^ haha i believed you :embar:

    agreed with others, that '98 piece is so fantastic and even more so considering its age

    thanks again A for this speckled goodness along with the goodies !
     
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  4. surver

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    duh i believed you too ;P

    still have some Matsuda lookbooks stashed away in storage somewhere as well as a few pieces that managed to move with me through all the different cities/countries i've been through over the years... came across a eyewear dealer in taiwan a few years ago with a backstock of vintage matsuda glasses and ended up buying almost all of them :) anyway, whatever happened to the brand and kobayashi?
     
  5. Caveat

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    Received the cropped cotton pants (season?) from Yoox and they are pretty great as you'd expect. Soft and breezy. They came with an incredibly long belt made from the same cotton fabric, which I didn't realize. It wraps around my waist 3 times. Sorry I can't get good enough light for an iphone photo, but for once the Yoox model looks accurate: http://www.yoox.com/pt/36371372JO/item?dept=#sts=dreambox80&cod10=36371372JO&sizeId=4 Size 3 still available. If you need a waist measurement from my 2 let me know, but the sizing is how you'd expect.
     
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  6. davidlee388

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    http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/designers/mitsuhiro-matsuda/ ( Founder died in 2008 )
    http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/brands/nicole/

    Sorry only had 5 mins to search the web :(
     
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  7. davidlee388

    davidlee388 Senior member

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    Please do not laugh or take the p**s, this was the Matsuda Look back then ( circa 1986/1987 )
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    Matsuda foldable grandad spectables. JPG shirt

    I will remove this if required since this aint Yohji.......
     
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  8. kingsolomon

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    Everything's coming up Milhouse :)
    How do they fit compared to the yoox models. Can't trust those models.
     
  9. Caveat

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    They look the same on me I think. Pretty basic.
     
  10. indesertum

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    noob question (i read the front page if that helps with response) if i wanted to get into yohji would it be a bad idea to just buy random jackets, pants, and shirts off of ebay and b&s?
     
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  11. pickpackpockpuck

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    i think that would be risky with any brand. definitely, if you're able, find a place to try stuff on. if that's not an option, I would start with pieces that are returnable. also, pants are a good place to start. it's been discussed in here before, but that's sort of the best foundation to build on.
     
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  12. dantebykiko

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    i don't think trying stuff before its good advice. if you buy something for decent price you are kind of stuck with it and need to give it a shot. the first couple of pieces i bought are the one i wear the most.
     
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  13. stadsvandringar

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    I agree with this. I still go to my first yohji pieces regularly. That's what got me into the brand in the first place.

    My advice would be to try and find it second hand first, as it's not really worth paying the dear dear prices if you're not going to be into it. If at all possible it does help to try it on. Also, I'd recommend starting with y's/y's for men first, as the pieces are basically the same as pour homme but offered at a much cheaper price. If you find that you like it, then it would be time to delve in to the pricier pour homme stuff.
     
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  14. Ivwri

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    Mmm, just to chime in as well with my own experience.

    Like p4 said, pants are a great foundation to start with. Some nice, wool gab tapered pants in your appropriate size will go with almost anything else you pick up from Yohji and should still be possible to wear with your existing shirts at least even if not jackets.

    Personally, I went pants -> shirts -> blazers and then started accumulating other pieces at random and more unique pieces. If at all possible, I would probably advise that you pick up pieces in wool gab (fabric code 100) as much as you can. This is the classic Yohji fabric and can work for multiple seasons (unless you live somewhere really cold) with extra layers as necessary.

    Funny enough, I also wear a lot of my first Yohji pieces a lot and they are probably all among my favourite pieces of clothing. I wonder why that is...

    Anyway, if you can find somewhere to try on the clothing then that is definitely a plus, but I wouldn't be too wary of picking up a pair of pants online in an appropriate size. The thing about Yohji is to not care too much about fit etc. as has been said loads of times on here. You can see that dantebykiko for instance buys clothing in all sorts of sizes and it still looks great on him. Feel free to buy a really long belt, suspenders, roll up the sleeves of jackets, roll up the hems of pants, leave stuff dragging on the ground, use safety pins to close or cinch stuff etc. it is all part of it :).

    Having typed all that, you should definitely take into account your own body type (height mainly, but build does come into this) and most importantly what makes you comfortable. :nodding:
     
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  15. StevenE

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    I'd also recommend not trusting pictures of the models wearing the clothes on LN-CC, Yoox (among others). I don't know quite how they do it, but that's not what the clothes look like. Knowing your measurements is probably very useful.

    For what its worth, I started by visiting the store - where I picked up my first shirt. I find shirts to be a good starting point, in so much as they're easy to incorporate into other outfits before you start building up a YY collection. Also, I love shirts.



    On a less related note, Kansai Yamamoto's comeback show came off great.
     
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  16. the shah

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    i agree with what everyone else has said, so in brief: bought a y's jacket, was very versatile. curious, walked into rue du louvre store. ...... i can't wear anything else now.

    make sure you're comfortable ! first experience with it was a huge jacket from gilt many years ago that i had no idea what to do with (though was one of nicest fabrics i had felt) at the time

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    stage 2 fromjapan, they've received and sending it home. EMS should do it?

    also david that shot was awesome hehe
     
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  17. davidlee388

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    I also recommend checking fit pictures in this thread since they are all spot on in my view, better than any online demonstration.

    I was also a Kansai Yamamoto fan, still have some of his legendary, outrageous 3-D constructed knitwear stashed away somewhere.
     
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  18. indesertum

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    thank you guys so much for the warm responses
     
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  19. surver

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    back to yohji: as guitarist for ruichi sakamoto, 1999

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  20. Ivwri

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    Wow, that is pretty cool! I really love how Yohji has worked with so many cool creative people in different industries and in different capacities. It is even more interesting since he is older so it also covers a different crowd from that that is usually explored by fashion designers these days. It's not just hip hop artists and sports personalities, we also get some kickass people like Sakamoto-san. I wonder what concert that was...

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