Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NAMOR, Jul 11, 2013.
Its last 962 in burgundy with Vibram sole.
The 962 is a pretty nice last. Looks more rounded than 915 but otherwise similar in appearance.
@skolyx or @patinepl can either of you provide sizing advice? I have a pair of captoe brogues on the 915 last in a U.S. 11.5 (which I believe is an EU 44.5). They are slightly too big... I get heel slip in both, particularly on my smaller right foot. I also have about 2 centimeters of space from my toes to the end of the shoe and the vamp closes fully when I lace them (which I like). Would you recommend sizing down a half size to get the ideal fit or would the eu 44 be too small (particularly in the instep... I want to be able to close the laces all the way). Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.
Since you want to be able to close them fully its hard to tell just from the above if you would be able to size down 0,5 and still be able to close them fully. I would suggest our average customer to try 0,5 smaller but its a bit hard to tell since you wish to close them fully on the lacing. For personal fitting advice I think its best that you send a private message to us or to patine.pl (the one you prefer, I think patine.pl will help you perfectly as well) and we can ask for your measurements and give you a more detailed answer. Just to avoid a long conversation in this thread just between us
Of course, will do. Thanks.
After due research (high premium GYW RTW english and all spanish brands) for a Black Toe Cap Oxfords, I pulled the trigger with this Yanko today. I had in mind AS Armfield on top of my list thanks to experts in SF, but finally I did not wanted to pay so much many for a pair of RTW GYW shoes that I wont wear much often. So I was really surprise of the quality/price ratio at those (260€)
Fit was very good. Second, the design and shape of the shoe is great in this model (6 eyelet); sharp and finesse adapted to the last. Finish is good too (edge of the sole, heel, stiching, beveled waist), Box Calf (maybe 2º or 3º grade compare to others, but still very nice), a fiddle waist very strange for this range of price. I think they use leather puff at heel and the toe (quite soft). Linning is low , but not much different from Carmina.
I think I made a very wise purchase for this model but I will wait to have a clear opinion of them after wearing them in the long run.
My main concer is about insole (kind of white? and thin) and the outsole (It seems rigid enough but flexible). Could any of the experts with Yanko provide me any input about their quality?.
I have to confess that I am impressed by the jump Yanko has made lately. At least aesthetically. Few years ago while waiting at the airport in Madrid I saw them in a store and my impression was quite "meh". But some of the pairs in this thread are stunning.
Anyone dare to comment on quality? I reckon they should be somewhere close to Meermin and well under Carmina's. Am I right?
From my understanding, above Meermin LM and behind Carmina (know both brands). In that territory.
Very good shoes indeed for their quality/price ratio.
But remenber that fit is first.
I find that difficult to believe as Meermin LM is arguably better than Carmina. I have both. Also, I'm not alone in that belief, pretty common actually.
Meermin LM HW is a plus, in that sense you are most than right.
In Spain none of the shoelovers will tell you that Meermin LM is better than Carmina, I not alone either. Apart from the above, wich I respect so much, finishings, insoles/outsoles, pattern designs, and QC are a bit better than Meermin . Although, we can discuss quality in Yanko Vs. Meermin LM
My impression is just that the design of the patterns of Meermin are in many models kind of blobbly and loose with their last/type of shoes. Finishings... and CQ is another very important issue to me. I have handle most pairs at their shops here many times.
The rest of the quality materials/components of Mermin exactly the same than Yanko (same level of prices too), but not to Carmina. But I never stated that their quality is far behind/above to each other .
Just my opinion, but I would like you to elaborate a bit more yours so maybe I change my analisis.
FWIW, I have Carminas, Yankos and Meermin Classic line (but no Meermin LM). I would say the quality of the Yankos is definitely closer to the Carminas than the Meermin classics. I've worn my Yanko captoe brogue on 915 last regularly for 2+ years now and they are in great shape.
I am not alone here.
I wouldn't disagree with you. Meerman QC isn't great on their classic line, but I have found the LM line to have significantly better QC. I don't think their LM line is blobby, if anything they're usually to sleek for my feet.
Realistically I'd put it at Meermin < Yanko < Meermin LM < Carmina. Carmina is my favorite b/c their QC is good, there is a consistency, and their cordovan is incredible. I'd accept that because of the more consistent QC of Yanko that you could put it ahead of Meermin LM on an overall ranking.
This is an interesting ranking.
I haven't tried Yanko myself, but I have shoes from Meermin's classic line and LM. The difference is huge (so is the price, to be fair). I have a Hiro lasted grain leather boot which is by far the worst "good shoe" I've owned. The leather began loosing color after just few months of light use and the front part of the sole is breaking apart. In comparison I have a pair of Alden Indy boots that receive even worse beating and they are holding like the first day.
But last winter I got a pair of LM double monks and I was greatly impressed. Both the leather and the finishing details were very good. And so far they are holding quite well. Although they suffer from the squeaking noise problem that has been commented in Meermin's thread. But apart from that I am very pleased.
So if Yanko sits somewhere in between, it might be a good alternative to consider considering the price.
At the end, we are saying the same; not much difference.
Crosspost of mine from Spanish Shoe Brands.
To update the thread and after some research on the field in Spain, here comes my list:
2.-Meermin LM, Berwick LP (JR soles), Yanko, Lotusse.
3.-Meermin LC, Berwick GYL.
Norman Vilalta has a new RTW line from 2014.
1.-Magnanni (most production overseas).
2.-Tallsem (great desings only on line))
Blake Rapid cons
1.-Enrile in Sevilla.
Norman Vilalta (Palma Mallorca-Barcelona)
Ramón Cuberta (Barcelona).
Others manufacturers: Andres Sendra, Crownhill, Calce, Manuel Gomez Artesanos."
A croos post from Spanish Shoe Bran
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