Xibao Shoemaker - Oct. Tenth

[wurger]

With @Notch and @WilYa help, Oct. Tenth exploded onto the scene of MTO handwelted shoes on SF.

Oct. Tenth's factory is based Fengxian District of Shanghai, run by Jiahao Chu and Yao Zhang. Xibao is Ms Zhang's online username, she does all the wechat inquires and owns the factory and Taobao store TGC. Oct Tenth is name after Yao Zhang's birthday. Wechat is the be-all and end-all platform for all communications in China, a much more powerful version of Whatsapp.

For non Chinese speakers/readers that don't have Alipay, Tom has an awesome MTO page on his Sons of Henrey site.

For my order, I reached out to Xibao on wechat, provided information on my feet, and picked an existing pattern on a chiselled last. Her recommendation of sizing is different to what I thought I should get, I listened to her advice and worked out in the end. She mentioned that general speaking, westerners have a slightly more narrow and low volume feet compare to Chinese feet. It took around 30 days from placing of the order to the shipment of the shoes.

I counted around 14 SPI for upper sewing, around 9-10 SPI for the welt. From the top down view, my pinky toe is pushing out on the sides of the upper slightly; I wore them straight away for a whole day, no discomfrot on big toe knuckles and pink toes, (those two areas are normally my pain points from different makers).

My feet info PDF for new makers

Lazyman on Horween Hatchgrain, Dainite sole.

 

[saurabh]

@wurger - The shoes came out awesome and glad to know they fit you well. Is this the Shang last ? What size did you take In Oct Tenth shoes compared to your Edward Green or G&G shoes?

 

[wurger]

@wurger - The shoes came out awesome and glad to know they fit you well. Is this the Shang last ? What size did you take In Oct Tenth shoes compared to your Edward Green or G&G shoes?

It actually wan't on one of the 4 lasts, but Yao didn't want to disclose which last she used due to there are too many copies in China, which I founnd strange when I asked her.

I took size 39, UK 6.5E for EG and G&G.

 

[laufer]

It actually wan't on one of the 4 lasts, but Yao didn't want to disclose which last she used due to there are too many copies in China, which I founnd strange when I asked her.

I took size 39, UK 6.5E for EG and G&G.

Wurger thank you for creatingthis thread. Can you offer sizing guidance across different makers and lasts? You kind of volunteered for this and since I know you have a black cap toe from just about every maker on this planet, can you compare for example Oct.Tenth to AS 109, GG06 etc etc etc.

 

[wurger]

Xibao 39

Saint Crispin’s Classic Last UK6F

JL 7000 & 8000 UK6E

EG 202 & 82 UK6.5E

G&G UK 6.5E

Carmina Forest & Rain UK6

C&J UK6E

Vass U 40

Vass F 39.5

Alfred Sargent UK6F

Loake UK6F

 

[saurabh]

It actually wan't on one of the 4 lasts, but Yao didn't want to disclose which last she used due to there are too many copies in China, which I founnd strange when I asked her.

I took size 39, UK 6.5E for EG and G&G.

thank you , so would that be size UK 6 for Oct Tenth compared to UK 6.5 in EG and G&G ?

 

[clee1982]

at this point we almost just should have a Chinese shoe thread (like the Japanese one), the other well known one is Yim (though looks like his IG address changed?)

edit: saw you post sizing, thanks!

 

[wurger]

thank you , so that would be size UK 6 for Oct Tenth compared to UK 6.5 in EG and G&G ?

We only discussed in Euro sizing, which is what Chinese shoes are normally on, but @Notch could help with Oct. Tenth size conversion to UK?

 

[saurabh]

We only discussed in Euro sizing, which is what Chinese shoes are normally on, but @Notch could help with Oct. Tenth size conversion to UK?

Thank you, was curious to know your experience with sizing but seems like different lasts have different sizing advise. As per Tom’s recommendation, I went with the same size as G&G/EG Size on the Shang Last i.e. 8.5 E UK for me.

 

[aj2603]

I went for a half size up from my Carmina rain last size for the Huang last.

I am UK 10 on the Rain last. I went for UK 10.5 on the Huang last.

 

[bsarosi]

Thank you, was curious to know your experience with sizing but seems like different lasts have different sizing advise. As per Tom’s recommendation, I went with the same size as G&G/EG Size on the Shang Last i.e. 8.5 E UK for me.

I, too, went with my GG size on the Shang last per Tom’s advice. UK 9E in GG is one of the best fits I’ve found so Tom advised to stick with that on Shang. I’ll probably try the Huang in the future and the recommendation is to size down a half to UK 8.5.

 

[clee1982]

I took 8.5 on Huang: F-fit as Tom indicate it has more room in toebox but same in heel (i.e. just wider toebox without heel slippage issue, hopefully). 8.5 is my CJ size, I take 9E UK in GG (MH71, TG73 and DG70 is too tight in E), guess we will see...

 

[saurabh]

I, too, went with my GG size on the Shang last per Tom’s advice. UK 9E in GG is one of the best fits I’ve found so Tom advised to stick with that on Shang. I’ll probably try the Huang in the future and the recommendation is to size down a half to UK 8.5.

That’s reassuring . I just hope it’s not too narrow in toe box and fits perfect like MH71. What model did you order ?

I took 8.5 on Huang: F-fit as Tom indicate it has more room in toebox but same in heel (i.e. just wider toebox without heel slippage issue, hopefully). 8.5 is my CJ size, I take 9E UK in GG (MH71, TG73 and DG70 is too tight in E), guess we will see...

I really liked the Huang last too but maybe next time. What model did you order ?

 

[clee1982]

the grey lazyman

 

[bsarosi]

That’s reassuring . I just hope it’s not too narrow in toe box and fits perfect like MH71. What model did you order ?

I really liked the Huang last too but maybe next time. What model did you order ?

Burgundy Hatch SpTD. May also go for the Espresso Hatch SpTD but on the Huang last in 8.5F