Would you wear this watch?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Jt787, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. peteyyytran

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    I'm a history geek in general, justifying mine. Not one of the loud propaganda art faces though, a fairly simple white dial.


    But mechanical watches don't look any different and are actually worse in terms of function. You can get some awful looking quartz watches, but that doesn't make the entire category suspect.

    A canvassed, bespoke suit will last longer, be more comfortable, and look better. A high quality shoe will last decades with resoling every few years, look better, and be more comfortable than a cheap gluejob. Will it be cheaper than buying several cheap glued shoes along the way? Probably not, but you get other benefits.

    A mechanical watch keeps worse time, and looks and fits exactly the same. There is no rational reason to buy one. It's either snobbery/flaunting wealth (by far the most common I suspect), appreciation for the craft and history, or just flat out having enough money that price isn't an object.

    Your mechanical watch is not superior to a quartz simply by dint of it being mechanical. Indeed, by most objective measures, it's inferior. Now, if you want to recommend various mechanical watches to people looking for them, great! But for the love of god, please don't tell a guy looking at a nicely finished $100 quartz that his prospective watch is utter crap, because it's simply wrong.
     
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    On that note, how do people feel about Skagen? For less than $100, I feel pretty good about this watch as an introductory piece on a budget. Somewhere down the road I will probably pick up something more casual as well.

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    Baloney. Snobby baloney.

    Hmmm. Let's say I live to be 95 and I'm 45 now. That's 50 years left. So a $180 quartz watch that lasts 5 years with a couple battery replacements at $10/each is $2,000 over my lifetime. Or a $200 automatic about the same.

    Or If I get a $80 quatz watch (which is what I'm wearing now) that's $1,000 over the rest of my life. If it lasts 10 years (which is possible) half again - though in practice I may just grow tired of the watch in 5 years.
     
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    You choose your mode of dress to show respect for others. A person who elects to aquire lower priced items displays little respect for his fellow person. I make a modest income (under $40k but I know that spending money on my shoes and other attire saves me money in the long run. As in respect to shoes, cheap shoes can lead to problems later. Three things to consider when buying shoes, the length (size), width, and last(form). A cheap watch relays to others "I don't care for myself and I would not care for You." Buying the best watch that you can afford is worth the cost. As for overpriced watches, cheap quartz watches are overpriced because they relay the incorrect message about you.:)
     


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    "I'm offended that you choose to wear a watch without a mechanical movement in it. It's a sign of disrespect." Are you for real?
     


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    What does spending >5% of your gross take home on a watch say about you?

    The rest of that is just :facepalm: to the Nth degree. It's fine if you like expensive stuff, but justifying it as a moral or practical necessity is just absurd.
     


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    It could also tell people that one might be an insufferable douchbag. People might not even recongise the fact that one is wearing an expensive watch, apart from something like a gold Rolex.


    I bet 99.9% of people one might meet won't know or even care what makes it go. Apart from maybe that we used to wind them up and now we put batteries in them.
     
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    Some people see value in mechanical watches, some do not. Others see value in bespoke clothes and shoes, others may not. We buy things we like because we can, no need to judge what others purchase.

    Is buying a $5k bespoke suit or $1k shoes really any more rational than buying a $5k mechanical watch?

    The real difference between quartz and mechanical:

    Quartz:
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    Mechanical:
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    I'm sure most people ain't going to see that, unless they have some interest in watchmaking ("No user serviceable parts inside", "Warranty void if opened"). They might care what the watch looks like from the outside and whether it shows the correct time or not....which is the primary function of a watch.

    IMO having a mechanical rather than a quartz watch, is rather like having trains running on coal and water, rather than diesel or electricity. But that's just my opinion. :)
     
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    I will own a mechanical at some point, but that's because I'm a gearhead when it comes to such things. I have a deep appreciation for the details of how things work. That's about me and knowing what I have on my arm, not anyone else. It will likely be a skeleton so I can actually see the inner workings. That also helps others appreciate it, but won't be the main goal. For others, the appeal will probably be more about the style and overall visual appeal. My sample size is quite small, but I've spoken to a couple of sartorially literate people about watches, and they didn't have even basic knowledge about horology. They knew what made for a casual or formal looking watch (thinness, band color, etc.), but had no knowledge of the inner workings.
     


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    I'm actually a bit of a gearhead myself, and can appreciate how a mechanical watch movement works. But for me choosing a watch with an electronic quartz movement about practicallity, especially given my location. Because a fine mechanical watch, that has moving parts, does require periodic, specialised and expensive servicing, lubrication and cleaning. I may even have to ship it all the way to Switzerland and back. On the other hand an inexpensive quartz watch, I can just take it to the local department store battery-changer, or even do it myself. :)
     


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    Not necessarily. A good mechanical will work whenever you need it. A quartz watch will only work whenever it has batteries. I have a drawer full of quartz watches that have dead batteries. Mechanicals are more practical for me.
     


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    As long as you keep it serviced it will, like a car engine, don't change the oil periodily, it will eventually seize. Don't know who can service a Patek or Piaget mechanical around these parts. Cheap Chinese mechanicals are basically disposable, it if stops, just chuck it away and buy a new one.


    Is that because you're apparently in Chicago, USA, so whatever periodic servicing you might need is readily available? I can certainly find CR3016 lithium button cells locally, like finding AA batteries, that's not a problem :)
     
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    You can easily see it by doing nothing more than turning the watch around.
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    A more appropriate analogy would be a gas powered car and a electric powered car.


    Periodic maintenance is optional and not required. Of course it is a good idea to have it done on a watch that has value, but if you have a $100 make sense to just buy a new one. Buy a Seiko 5 for $100 and wear it until it stops working in 10-20 years all without being serviced.

    Have you thought about buying a Chinese made watch (not fake)? They are producing some watches that are a great value for how much they cost.
     


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