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world cup

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by matadorpoeta, May 15, 2006.

  1. rdawson808

    rdawson808 Senior member

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    Eddie Johnson and John O'Brien in for the US. This could help. On the one had, Johnny O has much experience, on the other, Eddie is out to impress and has no fear.

    Edit: Mastroeni and Cherondulo out.

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  2. Mr. Checks

    Mr. Checks Senior member

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    I am going to strangle you with my bare hands Checks! [​IMG]
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    Look on the bright side, the US has (historically speaking) a 4-in-77 chance of a tie.
     
  3. rdawson808

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    The US got SPANKED. From end to end. First touches were bad, couldn't connect passes, and were impotent in the 18-yd box. Sad.

    The Czech Rep dominated everything.

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  4. skalogre

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    Re: Czech Republic. No surprise there. Very good team that is often underestimated. Don't know what their chances are this year though. Who did Portugal play? I'd root for them (even though they were our nemesis in the Euro cup).
     
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    Re: Czech Republic. No surprise there. Very good team that is often underestimated. Don't know what their chances are this year though. Who did Portugal play? I'd root for them (even though they were our nemesis in the Euro cup).

    Portugal was rather lackluster in their 1-0 win over former colony, Angola....
     
  6. waldo pepper

    waldo pepper Well-Known Member

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    Portugal was rather lackluster in their 1-0 win over former colony, Angola....

    What do you think of Francesco's new haircut? It may not be new but I have not seen it before.I am not a big fan of long hair on men but I think it definitely suited him more than his new cut.
    Lets hope for your sake he will not lose his abilities like Samson.[​IMG]
     
  7. Mr. Checks

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    Italy v. Ghana

    Let the diving begin!
     
  8. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    Portugal was rather lackluster in their 1-0 win over former colony, Angola....

    Wow... pity. Did Angola play well or was Portugal just lacking focus?
     
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    What do you think of Francesco's new haircut? It may not be new but I have not seen it before.I am not a big fan of long hair on men but I think it definitely suited him more than his new cut.
    Lets hope for your sake he will not lose his abilities like Samson.[​IMG]


    That is what his hair looked like in the pre-Scudetto season. I thought he looked good w/ the hair long also (or at least he carried it off better than most). Only saw first half - Francesco had a couple of nice 'screamer' 35 yard free kicks - after the first one the Ghanian keeper (who looked atrocious on corners) made sure to put 4 guys in the wall [​IMG] , plus some nice passing touches. Overall, Italia was dominant - Ghana did have some chances, but they were completely wasted...
     
  10. Mr. Checks

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    I stand corrected, Ghana dove more than Italy.
     
  11. Manny Calavera

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    Czech has a solid squad, but seriously, that was just pathetic. The US will never be a serious contender until they make youth clubs more democratic and it's less of a circle jerk for America's sport for the "privileged". Honestly, it's just infuriating (read: disgusting).

    *EDIT*: I decided to elaborate. Let me lay out what is wrong with American soccer:

    1) Again, somehow the world's sport has turned into a sport for America's privileged. Club fees are enormous unless you're playing at the top tier, and most schools will not have you unless you're playing for a premier club. This is a shame as a lot of the lower-income immigrant kids have some great talent. The tournaments are also expensive and there is absolutely no funding within the system. Unless mommy and daddy front the fee you're not playing for a prestigous youth club.

    2) It's a huge circle-jerk. The MLS teams are extremely lazy with scouting so unless you are an astounding prodigy, someone's pet project or a school player you're screwed. I played for VA's u-19 team in the Olympic Development program my freshman and sophomore years of highschool. We had an awesome team and I was probably the best set kicker in the state. However a highschool coach made me choose between ODP and highschool ball. I played school ball my freshman year, then chose ODP because I didn't like the politics behind school ball. Then I realized I didn't have a chance in hell of getting looked at exclusively through the program, thus I chose to go back to school ball my junior year of highschool. The coach convinced me all was well but had a chip on his shoulder and benched me. I quit and that ended my career. Not a pity party, just an example of how the system works. Unless you're a superstar, nobody is going to look at you unless you play school. And then, a college won't look at you unless your school is making headlines. A mediocre player from my area is a reserve for D.C. United now because he came up from a successful school and got a scholarship to WVU. Just an example of how you need to work in this elitist little system.

    3)In line with both those topics, race is unfortunately a huge, huge factor. When I played NCSL (the basic regional league most highschool players operate in and college players come from), the best players I played were Mexican and Latin American. These same kids got turned down for the state team because of their background. Same with the area schools. If they're going to give a spot to a white kid with money or a lower income immigrant kid, they'll choose the white kid every single time (I'm white, by the way). It's amazing how you can just wash talent down the drain. And this is not an overstatement. I've been there and seen it all.

    I'm just trying to give some method to the madness. It's not that us Americans don't have talent, it's just the system we're operating in. We need more money funneled into the soccer clubs and MLS...um...yeah, it's MLS. No player is going to be prepared for the world stage participating in the MLS. We need a couple FIFA-endorsed club teams stateside. But alas, I can dream...

    Sorry for the rant, that game just got the juices 'a flowin'.
     
  12. countdemoney

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    Well, I don't think there's any player in the world who can match Reyna's ability to back-tap. The day he hangs up the cleats cannot come too soon.

    The US attack was disgusting. Too much standing around and not enough attacking with the ball. I know Arena loves him, but Reyna has no place on the pitch beyond the backline.

    And Nedved, what a fine display of skill. All credit to the Checks for taking it to a team afraid of its own shadow. With the 3-0 result, the US is going to need multi-goal victories over ghana and the italians to have a prayer of finishing second.

    Realistically, with italy picking up a 2-0 victory, we're coming home after the first round.

    And to return to another point, it's very clear that we miss Sanneh in the back organizing the defense and Earnie Stewart sacrificing his body to push the attack on the front end.

    America is not this bad, but if you're unwilling to run in attack and defense, you deserve everything you get. Disgusting.
     
  13. Tokyo Slim

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    I still say the Dutch will win it all. They have the best kit.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Could someone explain to me why the Trinidad guy got red carded? Did he talk back or something? His "foul" wasn't that egregious and the victim came back a couple minutes later anyway... I thought that call was bunk, unless there was something I didn't see.
     
  15. Manny Calavera

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    Well, I don't think there's any player in the world who can match Reyna's ability to back-tap. The day he hangs up the cleats cannot come too soon.

    The US attack was disgusting. Too much standing around and not enough attacking with the ball. I know Arena loves him, but Reyna has no place on the pitch beyond the backline.

    And Nedved, what a fine display of skill. All credit to the Checks for taking it to a team afraid of its own shadow. With the 3-0 result, the US is going to need multi-goal victories over ghana and the italians to have a prayer of finishing second.

    Realistically, with italy picking up a 2-0 victory, we're coming home after the first round.

    And to return to another point, it's very clear that we miss Sanneh in the back organizing the defense and Earnie Stewart sacrificing his body to push the attack on the front end.

    America is not this bad, but if you're unwilling to run in attack and defense, you deserve everything you get. Disgusting.


    Yeah, in his defense Reyna's shot was very well struck. Unlucky. [​IMG]
     
  16. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    Could someone explain to me why the Trinidad guy got red carded? Did he talk back or something? His "foul" wasn't that egregious and the victim came back a couple minutes later anyway... I thought that call was bunk, unless there was something I didn't see.

    he dove in for the ball cleats first, which is dangerous play, and warrants a card whether you hit the player or not. quite a few promising careers have been ended by defenders wrecklessly diving in cleats first.
     
  17. Tokyo Slim

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    he dove in for the ball cleats first, which is dangerous play, and warrants a card whether you hit the player or not. quite a few promising careers have been ended by defenders wrecklessly diving in cleats first.

    Isn't this a mens sport? I could have sworn that it was...


    [​IMG]


    Just kidding.
     
  18. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    He actually lifted his back foot. Absolutely tight call and un-needed. Sheesh, let it go ref.

    Fussy is a good word for it. There's nothing worse than a ref who won't let the game flow.

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    i disagree with you and waldo on this. the letter of the law needs to be followed. if a certain rule does not need to be enforced, it should be removed from the rule book.

    the reason for this, is that when we allow refs to pick and choose which rules they will enforce and when, it opens up the door to cheating, or the perception of it.

    look at what's happening in the italian league.
     
  19. matadorpoeta

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    Isn't this a mens sport? I could have sworn that it was...


    [​IMG]


    Just kidding.


    there's a misconception that the refs call fouls for "hard" tackles. it's quite the contrary. you're supposed to go in hard, but with proper technique.
     
  20. rdawson808

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    i disagree with you and waldo on this. the letter of the law needs to be followed. if a certain rule does not need to be enforced, it should be removed from the rule book.

    the reason for this, is that when we allow refs to pick and choose which rules they will enforce and when, it opens up the door to cheating, or the perception of it.

    look at what's happening in the italian league.


    I agree with you on this. However, in this case, it was simply very very close; a case of did the ball leave his hands first or did the foot lift first.

    I agree that all rules should be followed and if one is broken it should be called. But there is a point of being pedantic.

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