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  1. Etienne

    Etienne Senior member

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    This would defy both logics, portugal is favourite against england and so is brazil against france.
    Yes, yes, it would. Still, one can always dream...
     
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    More concerns for the Azzurri camp as Juve's newly appointed team manager takes a dive from his office @ team headquarters clutching a set of rosary beads...
    http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slu...ters&type=lgns

    Apparently, Cannavaro is a personal friend and cut short the post-victory press conference as soon as he learned of the incident from reporters. Alex Del P. & Gianluca Zambrotta flew back to Torino to visit him in the hospital....
    [​IMG]


    Yeah sad news,I always liked Pessotto he seemed like a gentleman.Great player too.
     
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    benecios Senior member

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    And where is "here" benecios? Given what I saw in this world cup, portugal is definitely a better team than england.

    !luc


    England of course.
    England have not played well but Portugal have not pulled up any trees either.I am very confident of an England win.Lampard has had 22 shots in 4 games without a goal,this trend cant go on.My only concerns are Paul Robinson who is looking shaky and Mr Burns our clueless manager.
     
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    Argentina v Germany is going to be a really tough game, for both teams. I'm dreading Friday.

    Jon.
     
  5. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    I think you overstate the case for racism in football. bob

    like luc said, i wasn't referring to any racism. sorry if i didn't make that clear. i was referring to the 'big' teams versus the 'little' teams. i touched on this at the beginning of our world cup discourse.

    and i agree both spain and italy were robbed against south korea in the last world cup. there's no question about it.
     
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    like luc said, i wasn't referring to any racism. sorry if i didn't make that clear. i was referring to the 'big' teams versus the 'little' teams. i touched on this at the beginning of our world cup discourse.

    Gotcha. I agree.


    and i agree both spain and italy were robbed against south korea in the last world cup. there's no question about it.

    I wish I had seen these games. I've heard nothing but bad things but haven't known how to really take these criticisms. Wasn't there similar criticism about Japan vs. someone?

    bob
     
  7. montecristo#4

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    This World Cup is pissing me off. The officials are deciding way too many games, and they are obviously biased towards the traditional powerhouse teams. Brazil v. Ghana and Australia v. Italy were both horribly officiated. Don't even get me started on Spain v. France. The French game winning goal came as a direct result of a set play from a direct kick on a foul that was highly questionable, to say the least. The Brazilians get such benefit of the doubt from every official that it makes me sick -- why run the tournament at all, just hand the damned trophy to Brazil.

    I am starting to lose faith in the World Cup -- and I am a big fan. I was in Germany last week, caught two games on site including Australia v. Croatia (which absolutely rocked -- Croatians soccer fans are rude and nasty, for those of you who care -- they had it coming to them).

    It seems like 50% of these games are being decided by the referee. Some of these calls are legit, but a lot are really bad (e.g. Brazil's blatant offsides non-call versus Ghana). But the ultimate fact is that something is WRONG WITH THE SPORT OF FOOTBALL if so many games are decided after 90 or more minutes minutes by the stupid whistle of an often-biased official.
     
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    and i agree both spain and italy were robbed against south korea in the last world cup. there's no question about it.

    yeah, well diving Italians more than got their own back against Australia this year
     
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    I wonder though if it was the same back before all of the instant-replay and slow motion technology, but no one noticed? I suspect it was.

    And as Beckenbauer noted, half of this is players' fault for embellishing and diving so much. Hell, if the ref is on the wrong side of the play (defender's legs between him and the diver) how is he to tell?

    bob



    This World Cup is pissing me off. The officials are deciding way too many games, and they are obviously biased towards the traditional powerhouse teams. Brazil v. Ghana and Australia v. Italy were both horribly officiated. Don't even get me started on Spain v. France. The French game winning goal came as a direct result of a set play from a direct kick on a foul that was highly questionable, to say the least. The Brazilians get such benefit of the doubt from every official that it makes me sick -- why run the tournament at all, just hand the damned trophy to Brazil.

    I am starting to lose faith in the World Cup -- and I am a big fan. I was in Germany last week, caught two games on site including Australia v. Croatia (which absolutely rocked -- Croatians soccer fans are rude and nasty, for those of you who care -- they had it coming to them).

    It seems like 50% of these games are being decided by the referee. Some of these calls are legit, but a lot are really bad (e.g. Brazil's blatant offsides non-call versus Ghana). But the ultimate fact is that something is WRONG WITH THE SPORT OF FOOTBALL if so many games are decided after 90 or more minutes minutes by the stupid whistle of an often-biased official.
     
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    I think together with the Player of the Match award they should also award a lucky player with this patch (to be worn at all times):

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    yeah, well diving Italians more than got their own back against Australia this year
    you guys lost fair and square, (remember i was pulling for you), so don't be a sore loser. the game was poorly officiated, but the better team won, and it was a penalty.
     
  12. matadorpoeta

    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    here is my take on the diving. much of it isn't. a lot of people who don't player soccer don't realize that when you're running fulll speed, and someone somuch as just nudges you, it can send you flying.

    also, there are many times when a player with the ball recieves a foul, but unless he goes to the ground, the referee won't call it. there are times when a player gets fouled and he has to make a split second decision as to whether to fight through it and stay on his feet, because that's to his advantage, or let himself fall to the ground, because that's to his advantage. it's like a defender in basketball. unless he flops to the ground, he will never get the 'charging' call, no matter how hard the attacking player might jump into him.

    the rest is actually diving, and the way to solve the problem, whether you guys want to hear this or not, is to pull out yellow cards for it, EVERY TIME. it falls under the unsportsman like behaviour rule, and merits a yellow, at least. it might get ugly for a while, but eventually the player's would get the picture and stop doing it. remember, it is the player's job to do what he can in order to win the match, and when the referees don't punish diving, it is the same as saying it is allowed.
     
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    This World Cup is pissing me off. The officials are deciding way too many games, and they are obviously biased towards the traditional powerhouse teams. Brazil v. Ghana and Australia v. Italy were both horribly officiated. Don't even get me started on Spain v. France. The French game winning goal came as a direct result of a set play from a direct kick on a foul that was highly questionable, to say the least. The Brazilians get such benefit of the doubt from every official that it makes me sick -- why run the tournament at all, just hand the damned trophy to Brazil.

    I am starting to lose faith in the World Cup -- and I am a big fan. I was in Germany last week, caught two games on site including Australia v. Croatia (which absolutely rocked -- Croatians soccer fans are rude and nasty, for those of you who care -- they had it coming to them).

    It seems like 50% of these games are being decided by the referee. Some of these calls are legit, but a lot are really bad (e.g. Brazil's blatant offsides non-call versus Ghana). But the ultimate fact is that something is WRONG WITH THE SPORT OF FOOTBALL if so many games are decided after 90 or more minutes minutes by the stupid whistle of an often-biased official.


    yes. that's the way it is. i agree with you 100%.
     
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  15. Luc-Emmanuel

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    Don't even get me started on Spain v. France. The French game winning goal came as a direct result of a set play from a direct kick on a foul that was highly questionable, to say the least.
    [​IMG] Henry overplays the foul, but it's pretty clear that Puyol obstructs him. It was such a stupid foul, it's hardly believable indeed...

    !luc
     

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