Working Weekends

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by Mr Herbert, Aug 6, 2011.

  1. Mr Herbert

    Mr Herbert Senior member

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    For those of you who dont get paid overtime, how do you feel about being called in on weekends?

    I know theres probably a lot of you finance guys who work weekends out of your own sheer love of work, and million doller bonuses, but im talking about normal people who arent expected to work 80 hours a week?

    i have a job looking after a particuarly difficult asset and i am forever being called in to work on weekends. if its not being called in to the office its being called a 6am on a sunday morning to answer tricky technical quesitons with big implications.

    the worst thing is im fairly low in the food chain and there is no one more senior than myself in the office. i feel like im pulling all the load.

    should i just harden up or do i have legitimate grounds to be annoyed?

    Oh yeh, its my wifes birthday as well. She is particuarly unhappy because the exact same thing happened last week (had to leave town for 3 weeks at one days notice).
     
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  2. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    hard to identify - I've always worked sometimes on the weekends, and people who report to me do. I find it hard to imagine a job in todays world that doesnt' involve some work on the weekends. sorry I couldn't be more supportive .
     


  3. ter1413

    ter1413 Senior member

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    -don't answer your phone when they call.
    -tell them that you are out of town and not able to come into the office.
     


  4. fwiffo

    fwiffo Senior member

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    Are you facing recurring 'run the business' issues or issues that are systemic? My direct who is a manager of eight complained to me that his staff was being pulled into on call support, but I said it's just a symptom of the fact that we don't have control over the work intake. If we did, we'd know when stuff would happen and we'd schedule for it rather than be on standby 24/7 waiting for someone to tell us when to work.

    Personally, I'm a bit of a workaholic. I've worked all the statutory holidays this summer and took 3 PTO since October but I just suck it up. I dodge out early some Fridays (~3 or 4pm) and spend a lot of time milling in airports as compensation. If you find it bad you are answering the technical questions, think about me as a powerless middle manager who has to wake everyone else up to do stuff because no one gave me access to do anything.
     


  5. wj4

    wj4 Senior member

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    I don't get OT because I'm a salaried employee, but I rarely do more than 45 hours a week. I'm at work now. To be honest, I like working on weekends because I'm one of the very new management that's here. Everything is more low key and the ambiance is less hectic.

    I take my days off throughout the week to correspond to my school schedule.

    I just call it grinding..working while others are still sleeping. :p
     


  6. yjeezle

    yjeezle Senior member

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    i don't work weekends but i average ~60 hours a week. i don't mind it most days, but it can be a drag

    from my perspective, i think you have a right to be annoyed, but i think in this day and age it's going to be expected that you're on call all the time..
     


  7. norcaltransplant

    norcaltransplant Senior member

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    Working on the weekend takes a toll. I had an earlier post about working excessively and the effect on my personal relationships. I have stopped volunteering for extra weekend shifts though our group is currently short staffed and I'm working every other weekend. It still sucks as far as maintaining a social life.

    I would try to clarify your job responsibilities with your boss as far as expectations are concerned. If you are salaried, and the additional work is generating extra revenue for the company, I would inquire about a performance bonus or try to negotiate a pay-for-performance clause the next time your contract is up for renewal.
     


  8. GQgeek

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    I have been at companies where i did lots of extra work for nothing and at others where i got compensated in some form. If you're just working lots of extra hours and not receiving any extra benefits, whether direct compensation, time off, performance bonus or something else because they're short staffed or disorganized or something, that would get to me at this point in life and I probably wouldn't stay at the company if they weren't willing to work with me.

    If you negotiated a salary on the basis of working a full week, or even 45-50 hours, and you're now being pulled in weekends all of the time, that's not cool imo, unless the company is really struggling and everyone is putting in extra work, you're in the middle of a big project, or it's already been worked into your compensation somehow.

    Your attitude should partly be defined by the norms in your field. As you say, finance guys can work long hours but they can get huge rewards. If you're a technical guy where bonuses are typically a lot smaller (as opposed to being multiples of salary) and probably not worth sacrificing every single saturday, I'd probably look at my options. If you're good at what you do you can probably find something else that will provide a better work/life balance.

    Technical people that systems depend upon are often expected to be on call, and you need to accept that, however, there should be some shift rotation at the minimum. It's not fair if it's always on you. And again, once in a while is fine, but if you find yourself being called in every saturday, that's not really on-call any more. Someone's added an extra day to your work week. If there's nobody else, that's fine, but you should get something for it.

    You really need to consider the financial situation of your company though. This isn't something you can make an issue about if everyone around you is getting laid-off.
     
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  9. austinite

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    I have to do a long week (50-60 hours) about once a month, but I get directly paid for it. Also, the duties that require the long hours are usually technical challenges which are the fun part of my job. Personally I wouldn't want a purely salaried job that required regular overtime unless it was already built into my pay (ie: making > 100K) and I draw that line as a 24 year old with no family obligations. If they can't be reasonable, find a different job.
     


  10. wj4

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    I can do it now because I'm kinda like you. I'm 25 years old with no wife. My social life is non existing though. The last time I went out was to see Hangover 2 and I was on vacation.

    My life consists of work, school, and squeezing time to hit the gym 3-4 times a week.
     


  11. johnaus

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    I'm quite fresh into my career, but the outlook I've taken on it is that I've never really met anyone I'd deem successful that has got there by working Monday - Friday 8 hour days. Success takes hard work.
     


  12. Mr Herbert

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    i used to be the same as you and would enjoy being called in on weekends becuase it proved my value to the company.

    now im the fall back option whenever something goes wrong.

    i guess my main gripe is lack of apreciation. when i came in to work this morning i didnt get a thanks. it wasnt even recognised that i worked all sunday.

    maybe i am just a typical spoilt Gen Y'er with a constant need of reafirmation... i need to be more like globetrotter
     


  13. wj4

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    That's how I look at it. You gotta stay hungry. I'm also relatively new to my career. I'm sure in several years, I would want the weekends home for the significant other.

    Showing appreciation is really a big factor. My admin works hard too. Sometimes putting in 10 hours of OT per week. It doesn't seem like much, but she's also going to school full time and taking care of her siblings. I'm not in charge of her payroll, but I do buy her Starbucks and tiny stuff like that when I swing by to get something for myself.
     


  14. GQgeek

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    At 25 you should probably just be thankful for the experience unless you're just grinding away at something that won't provide you any benefit down the road. I worked a lot and put in tons of hours + school at that age. I felt like a robot but you get through it. The 9-5 attitude is definitely something you want to avoid cultivating. It's career poison.

    Only you can gauge the relative merits of just doing the work without complaining, trying to get something extra out of it, or changing your situation entirely.
     


  15. wj4

    wj4 Senior member

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    I think it's about your attitude, and where do you see yourself in the near future. I have a friend who does finance for a firm and he does the M-F, 9-5 deal. He's been with the firm for several years now. He's happy with the work schedule and the fact that it's less than a 5 mile drive from his house. The pay sucks and he knows it. He has never got a raise since he's been hired. But it does not bother him because parents got him the condo he's living at when he got his BA. The money he makes is basically hanging out money.

    I'm also 25, and I try to push myself as hard as I can. I don't expect to be at my current employer for more than a few years to be honest. Since it's a 24/7/365 environment, the work schedule is quite flexible to my school schedule. And 9-5 sucks anyways, I love my 6-3...even though I'm sleeping earlier than I was in high school. :embar:

    I can find better paying jobs now, but they require traveling so it will most likely clash with my school schedule.

    Sorry for derailing the thread. :(
     


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