I'm going to fly in the face of received SF wisdom right now and state that RLPL and RLBL neckties are wildly overrated. The quality is just not there like it is in other RLBL/RLPL products. I disagree on RLPL. I have seven of them, and they're all sturdily lined and made from thick silk that releases almost all wrinkles after hagning. I believe that they're 7-fold ties, too.