Women in suits: a bad idea?

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  1. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    One of the things making it a women's jacket.

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    It wasn't a dis, just a simalie. She is definitely not a size 8 or 6 though. .


    A true US size 4 is about a 22" waist which is extremly unusual. Most models have about a 24-25" waist which is what that woman appear to have.

    Are you personally robbing the cradle perhaps?[​IMG]
     


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    She's older than I am! She buys a size 4, I have bought her things in a size 4. Certain brands she can fit into a 2 as well.
     


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    Don't know about the vest, but it looks like you can pack a decent amount of boobage in that jacket chest.
     


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    Don't know about the vest, but it looks like you can pack a decent amount of boobage in that jacket chest.

    teh drape.
     


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    A flared skirt alone does not a women's jacket make. Keep trying. And no, waist supression doesn't do it either.
     


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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    A flared skirt alone does not a women's jacket make. Keep trying.

    Come again?
     


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    When I think of a woman in a suit, this is what comes to mind. Often with costumey details like spats, etc. [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Eeeewwwww! [​IMG] Teh crossdressing dyke isn't teh good example either.
     


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    The problem with everything posted is that it all represents an almost ironic application of a man's suit (fabric, detailing, even cut in some cases) to a woman's body. I personally don't find that approach appealing and am not surprised that it often doesn't look good.

    To me, the ideal woman's suit embraces the fact it is intended to be worn by a woman. The fabric should be different, often in less sober, more feminine colors, or in bolder, more flamboyant patterns. The design and details should be less concerned with implying functionality (no vents, no breast pocket, no flaps, etc.). Details can also be less orthodox, and include things like: bracelet-length sleeves without buttons, shawl lapels, single-button closures, etc.

    And it should always be a skirt suit. Showing some leg never hurts. Also, the jacket can be worn over an open-neck blouse or camisole, instead of a dress shirt.

    Generally, think more Chanel, and less Armani. I'd never want to dress like a woman, so I have trouble understanding the appeal of a woman dressing like a man.


    Wow. What a surprisingly backwards view. I find skirt suits reflect the taste of sleazy male bosses rather rather than embrace women. A suit should do for a woman what it does for a man. A real woman will wear trousers with quiet confidence & sophistication, and she'll make my panties wet in the process.
     


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    Yeah, wool trousers shape the mons pubis in an oh-so-great way.
     


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    Come again?
    Beeman's suit (that you pictured) is a pretty typical UK men's cut. Dege does a jacket like that. It's not indicative of much by itself. So are we talking about women's suits or women crossdressing? (I have comments for either) [​IMG]
     


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    Beeman's suit (that you pictured) is a pretty typical UK men's cut. Dege does a jacket like that. It's not indicative of much by itself.


    You alluded that the flared skirt and hacking pockets make the woman's suit in the one photo a women's suit. I was just providing an example that a flared skirt and hacking pockets have nothing to do with the gender of a suit. It does however give the illusion of wider hips as seen on the same woman with the thin frame.
     


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    You alluded that the flared skirt and hacking pockets make the woman's suit in the one photo a women's suit. I was just providing an example that a flared skirt and hacking pockets have nothing to do with the gender of a suit. It does however give the illusion of wider hips as seen on the same woman with the thin frame.
    True , which is why those features are often incorporated in women's tailored jackets. But, as you point out, that's not the only place they appear.
     


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    Wow. What a surprisingly backwards view. I find skirt suits reflect the taste of sleazy male bosses rather rather than embrace women. A suit should do for a woman what it does for a man. A real woman will wear trousers with quiet confidence & sophistication, and she'll make my panties wet in the process.

    ^^^ Ig'nance and the worst sort of juvenile faux liberalism.

    A skirt suit is the classic format of business suit for women. By the strictest business formal standards, a woman is supposed to wear a skirt suit, not a pant suit. In fact, if you've bothered to observe, women in positions of power commonly wear skirt suits. Hillary Clinton is ridiculed for her pant suits precisely because it is not the norm.

    Moreover, if you haven't noticed, men and women have different sorts of bodies. It's only to be expected that different sorts of clothing will best flatter those bodies.

    Anyway, I could make the equally stupid argument that you are a chauvinist for thinking that a woman must dress like a man to appear confident and sophisticated.
     


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    Wow. What a surprisingly backwards view. I find skirt suits reflect the taste of sleazy male bosses rather rather than embrace women. A suit should do for a woman what it does for a man. A real woman will wear trousers with quiet confidence & sophistication, and she'll make my panties wet in the process.
    Not doin' it for ya'? [​IMG]
     


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