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Wolverine 1000 Mile Boot Review

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Rollin Tumble, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. oneTwo

    oneTwo New Member

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    I just picked up a pair of tan 1000 mile boots. i do a lot of stream fishing but have other boots for that. These boots will be primarily used in an urban environment.

    After sifting through all these pages, it seems like i should start off with some Obenauf LP or Sno Seal for the waterproofing. Will the LP serve as a conditioner to keep the boot from looking rough and worn? Also does anyone have any pics of the tan boot after using Obenauf LP? I would like to see what the color change looked like. Please let me know if you have any other product recommendations. thanks.
     
  2. wigglr

    wigglr Senior member

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    Similar question: If using LP, do you need boot oil too?
     
  3. bellyhungry

    bellyhungry Senior member

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    After reading through the first 26 pages, I want a pair (even though I just bought a pair of GT about a month ago.)
     
  4. milw50717

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    Not needed, but some people will use the oil in between less frequent LP applications.
     
  5. wigglr

    wigglr Senior member

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    What would be recommended... Filson?
     
  6. djwoblely

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    I ended up buying both the Rust and Brown. They are very close to being the same color. The rust is like a shade and a half lighter maybe. I haven't put obenaufs or oil on it yet tho but I would assume it would get close to the browns color. I prefer the lighter color of the rust. Is there a way to somewhat keep them from not turning brown keeping the rust even with obenauf's or sno seal?
    I ended up putting the browns on the B&S forum. I just needed to see them next to each other to decide which ones to keep.
     
  7. Crane's

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    Needed, neither of the waterproofers can penetrate or replenish the essential oils like a good boot oil.


    That or Obenaufs boot oil.


    Nope, it's the nature of this kind of leather. The sun and elements will darken the leather no matter what you do. If they get lighter in color then they are in need of being treated. Failure to do so will lead to the leather dry rotting and cracking. I was asked in another thread how long I expected these boots to last doing what I do in the conditions I wear them in. My response was 10 plus years barring having them getting cut to shreds on scree. Left untreated and neglected these boots wouldn't last me 6 months. The choice is yours. 6 months or 10 years?
     
  8. ZenSilk

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    New to the forums right here, been lurking a ton for a long time!

    I actually just recently LP'd my Tan 1000's. I did not treat them right out of the box before I wore them, per Crane's rec. because I really enjoyed the color. I was worried it would be annoying, but it's a very versatile smooth and creamy color that is vibrant and goes well with my pant collection (Raw indigo denim, tan cords, various chinos, slim wool trousers). I will try to get pics ASAP (sun is starting to set here) of my boots (unfortunately no before shots). I wiped them down with a slightly damp cloth and went over them with a small dab of saddle soap. The chromexcel was still supple and well-enriched before I LP'd them, but I figured they deserved a nice tasty Obenauf's treat. Like you might be, I was worried the LP would completely change the beautiful tan color ( I have used sno-seal countless times and know what it can do). I applied two light-medium coats of LP, no hairdryer used, just the warmth of my fingers. The boots did darken, but instead of going to a darker heavy brown as I was kind of expecting, much to my delight the color change yielded a very gorgeous Copper-like color. I like it even more than the original color personally.

    Congrats on your purchase, I'll grab some pics when I can!
     
  9. wigglr

    wigglr Senior member

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    Thanks Crane for your amazing input on this forum
     
  10. Crane's

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    No problem. One of the reasons why I started all of this was to dispel a whole bunch of bad information about good leathers and how to really care of it if you want it to last. I put my money where my mouth is and three years later the results are there for anyone to see.
     
  11. digga

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    what about the boot oil they sell at the Red Wing store? same stuff?
     
  12. mellowllama

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    someone on reddit posted this from rei about sno-seal and leather boots
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    A: Unlike water-based formulas used by Nikwax and Granger's, Sno-Seal is a beeswax-based waterproofing paste. Introduced in 1933, it is manufactured by South Carolina-based Atsko, Inc., and is marketed at outdoor stores under the Tectron label.

    Designed originally for boots worn by hunters and outdoor laborers (loggers, for example), Sno-Seal is a waterproofing product with a large following. It carries one drawback: If applied to the leather used in nearly all modern leather hiking boots, those boots cannot be resoled, says cobbler Dave Page.
    "You just can't work on the boots after it's on the leather," Page says of Sno-Seal. "Most hiking boots today are made of dry-tanned leather that uses chromium salts and chromium sulfates. Modern uppers sit down on top of sole units and are glued on, not stitched. To get soles to stick to the glue line, you have to be able to get the leather absolutely clean.
    "Sno-Seal, Mink Oil, Neatsfoot Oil are all products that work fine as waterproofing, but they're formulated for oil-tanned leather--leather from 60 years ago," Page says. "There's just something that's in Sno-Seal that gets impregnated in dry-tanned leather. I don't know what it is. Once it's in there you can't clean it out and the leather will just not accept adhesives."
    Not every hiker considers resoling their backpacking boots. If you deeply love a pair of boots and anticipate a lifelong relationship with them, though, it's best to bypass Sno-Seal. "I think Sno-Seal is an awfully good waterproofing product," says Page, who does not carry Sno-Seal in his shop. "It works fine if as long as you put it on boots that you don't care if they ever get resoled."




    Judging from the thread I guess this isn't a problem for 1000 mile boots.
     
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  13. MarioImpemba

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    Maybe because 1K's are goodyear-welted. [​IMG]

    ...And use some of that "60 years ago" leather.

    That article is talking about Wal-Mart tier boots. Who resoles a fused sole?
     
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    It has pine tar in it so the answer is no.
     
  15. wigglr

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    You'd say not to use Montana's Pitch Blend because of the same reason, correct?

    Edit: I found the answer in one of your previous posts. Just bought some Filson! THanks!
     
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    I have always thought it was an and/or relationship as the LP contains oils. Indeed, Obenauf's indicate that the oil can be used as touch-up between LP applications
     
  17. mellowllama

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    my limited understanding is that goodyear welts require adhesive in addition to the stitching. I guess if the adhesive doesn't need to stick to the part where the sno-seal's applied, this is irrelevant. chrome excel does use chrome salts. happily, since people in this thread seem to have had no problems with resoling it doesn't seem to be an issue.
     
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  18. oneTwo

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    Thanks. I can't wait to see them and i'll probably take the same approach. I might also half sole it as it seems bit slippery on certain surfaces. There seems to be a lot of love on here for the brown and black 1000's but not so much for the tan.
     
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  19. Crane's

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    Chromexcel is chrome tanned and then it's vegetable tanned. So it's loaded with oils and waxes. I'm not sure where the confusion seems to be coming from.



    Tan is my favorite leather color. It ages oh so well. I've been trashing my brown 1Ks for a while now and will probably switch to the tan boots until the snow flies. By then they'll need to be resoled and then I'll probably go with the 721s for a while.
     
  20. Crane's

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    Oh and I have two pairs of brown 1Ks at the store size 9.5 and 10.5 if I remember right. Anyway I don't want them sitting around so if you're looking call the store.
     

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