Wolf vs Goat Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by falathar, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. chupas

    chupas Senior member

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    Did the referral program get abandoned? I had 4-5 but haven't received any information or credits.
     


  2. trig

    trig Senior member

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    wow did those knit blazers go quick! if anyone changes their mind on a slim 38, preferably grey. let me know please.
     
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  3. refinery

    refinery Well-Known Member

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    Same! I'm always late to the good stuff. :\
     


  4. Saenek

    Saenek Senior member

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    I snagged a grey blazer in 38 almost as soon as they went up this morning, didn't see a slim in either size but I figured I'd need some tailoring anyways so I'll give it a shot.

    Also looks like the chinos have arrived so I got a shipping notification for those as well.
     


  5. chupas

    chupas Senior member

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    You could just, uh, buy it when it comes out.

    Also Mauro came through on the referral thing -- thanks man!
     


  6. goldenbear

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    Im glad sales will be a thing with the past. The regular prices are more than reasonable. The sales are just wasteful.
     


  7. kwanon

    kwanon Senior member

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    I tried referring someone the other day but the link just went to the referral company's website ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Still sent my friend a link to the shoes...though he didn't bite
     


  8. space4lyfe

    space4lyfe Well-Known Member

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    with a 39 Chest should I be going with a medium or small for the henleys? Thinking Medium based on size charts but I do like a slim fit.
     
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    Medium
     


  10. space4lyfe

    space4lyfe Well-Known Member

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    thanks
     


  11. refinery

    refinery Well-Known Member

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    Then it isn't as cheap? I can't afford that much on a blazer but at the sale price it was reasonable.
     


  12. orfane

    orfane Senior member

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    I feel the same man. I make 25k a year, I can't afford most of this stuff full price.
     


  13. Mauro

    Mauro Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    It's more than wasteful. It's gross. There are hundreds of people just waiting for the sales.

    It's my fault. I am a shitty marketer. I don't have the out reach or the money to grow my market like I want so I had no choice but to move to " cut to order". I can't make anymore samples because I don't have the money.
    I think it's easy to play armchair designer but a lot of people really have no idea of the costs involved.

    Shipping the Sweatshirts from Italy sucked part of my soul out. The shipping alone was 10 euro per garment. That's basically 11.00. I still have the dye house, the fabric, the construction. Not to mention the photographs and if I have to pay a model. Then credit card fees and website fees. That shit adds up. When it was all send and done, I shit you not ,I literally almost cried to my wife. I fucked up the numbers. I am making $7.00 per garment. You can't stay open like that.

    If I didn't go "cut to order" I would have to close my doors. The "cut to Order" system will weed out the sale shoppers and the shitheads who don't care.

    I think it's almost like a rebirth. A system that gives the best possible product, with the best price, to people that respect ,and value what I am trying to do.

    It really sucks for the good guys because they get fucked for being good people but that's the short term. In the end they will always get the best possible product while staying in their budget.

    For the cheap skates or the people wanting a $74.00 shirt. Go somewhere else,, like J.Crew or someone who specializes in making cool looking stuff at a cheap price.

    It's not me. It's not WvG. It's not what my rewards members signed up for.

    I have listened to the polls and I am making items at price points you want ( not all of you, sorry cheap skates).

    The thermal pre-order wasn't great. What will happen is unless people buy them at either the posted price or rewards price or they will go one sale.

    If they go on sale I have to stop using my factory in the U.S. and make them in Italy which will make 10pcs at a time. They will cost more but they will bend to my "cut to order" system.


    I want to make so many cool things but I simply can't because of volume and price.

    I didn't come here to argue but the outerwear is top of the line. It doesn't get better. Sure you might not like the design, I respect that, but when I see other brands of lesser quality charge more with a dumb downed design and they sell out it makes me sad.

    I believed the designs were pretty solid. I made so I could go hunting in the butt ass cold for a long ass time. I thought with MTO it would be a no brainer considering the weather has been getting colder and colder.
    I was wrong, again.


    The last thing to touch on before I disappear for a month or so and the reason I left SF. The attitude on ALL of the threads pertaining to WVG are poor. It's not cool. There is barley any pictures of people posting what they are wearing or what they would like to see. It's a place to bitch and that's not nice.
    That could be my fault to for being so open but then I left and it's still the same. You have a handful of shit stirrers and a few good guys. That's not a healthy combo.
    It's not good for the lurkers. It's not good for my health.

    I know my way of doing business is wonky . I am trying to change step by step. It's hard and it's expensive.

    I won't be a sale brand. So for all of you looking for the rock bottom prices get them now because in a month or two your ass will have to look for another brand. Hopefully you have to pay retail.


    PS-I have had a serious influx of orders so there will be a couple day delay in shipping considering Si-Jin and Gina don't work for me anymore. Thanks for the support.
     


  14. Mauro

    Mauro Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Dude! I appreciate you wanting to buy WvG. However at 25k a year this isn't the brand for you. You need to be saving your money for more important things. College debt relief, a house, savings for the future.
    This is a huge problem. You need to stay within your means.

    One day, hopefully soon, you will make 100K with a disposable income and that's when you start buying the good shit. You clearly have great taste but that can be worked out with cheaper stuff for the time being.

    I am not singling you out. I just want you to think about your priorities and be smart about it. I don't think many business owners selling stuff would say this but it needs to be said. I care. I would rather you not buy now and build a solid nest egg. Then in the future buy when you can really afford to do so.


    Best,
    Mauro
     


  15. orfane

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    Haha I'm glad you say that, I wrote that post half asleep and was worried I came across complaining about the price. I know your stuff is out of my price range, its just so nice. The only thing I've been able to grab so far are the jeans for the denim contest, but I've had my eye on some other stuff. I tend to buy only a few nice things and save up for a while to get them (I seriously own one blazer and like 2 dress shirts). Personally I like the switch to cut to order, and I intend to get some items on that system as well (although I'm never going to be a top buyer for obvious reasons). And hopefully post-grad school life affords a better income and I can buy everything you make. In the mean time, keep doing you man. The brand is awesome and you have dedicated followers, even if there are some shit heads.
     


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