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Why should I buy a Mac??

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by RedScarf7, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. RedScarf7

    RedScarf7 Senior member

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    As of right now my gay midget friend Juan does this. I would certainly like this ability, though.
     
  2. huy

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    you can use any laptop to edit photos
     
  3. RedScarf7

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    you can use any laptop to edit photos

    I'm not so technologically impaired that I wasn't aware of this. I hear all this bable about N-videa g-force something or others, and apparently Macs are superior in this regard...
     
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    I just bought one of the new aluminum MacBooks after using PCs all my life. To be honest, "the switch" does take a bit to get used to--until you realize how intuitive and simple the Mac OS actually is. After being conditioned to perform tasks a certain way on Windows, that is quite a shift. A few things that I like:
    • It's fast. Really fast. I have the slowest MacBook (2.0Ghz), but I slowly realized that i didn't need to close any of my programs. OS X is designed for programs to run continuously.
    • You can run windows on it. I just bought VMware Fusion, which allows you to run windows as a seperate "window" within the OS. You're also able to natively boot into windows if you choose.
    • It's built like a tank. Compared to my plastic Dells, the MacBook's unibody structure is remarkably solid, yet thin and light.
    • The huge multitouch trackpad is fantastic.
    • EDIT: of course, not having to install anti-virus software frees up a bit of memory, contributing to the overall speed. (You still need anti-v if you plan on running Windows, of course.)
    A few things that I don't like:
    • No dedicated "delete" key. Yes, there is a delete key, but it works as a PC backspace. You have to press "Control-delete" to have typical left-to right delete functionality.
    • The screen doesn't open to a fully flat, 180 degree position. Now I can't use my laptop in some positions.
    • Only 2 USB ports, and no VGA or DVI output. With it's new mini display port, Apple makes you buy an adapter if you want to connect to an external display. (This is only for the laptops.)
    • OS X isn't as customizable as Windows. This may be a plus for some, because it makes the OS simpler. (However, I may have not figured everything out yet.)
    • Having to buy new--Mac--versions of software. This can be remedied by installing Windows for your old apps, but you still need a new version of Windows!
    Off the top of my head, these are my general impressions. Also, note that I didn't list "high price" as one of my dislikes (popularly cited as a gripe--and rightly so). I bought the MacBook on eBay with the 25% Live.com discount (which is currently at 8% I think) and my 10% paypal coupon. I ended up saving $300 on a brand-new system!
     
  5. RedScarf7

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    I just bought one of the new aluminum MacBooks after using PCs all my life. To be honest, "the switch" does take a bit to get used to--until you realize how intuitive and simple the Mac OS actually is. After being conditioned to perform tasks a certain way on Windows, that is quite a shift.

    A few things that I like:
    • It's fast. Really fast. I have the slowest MacBook (2.0Ghz), but I slowly realized that i didn't need to close any of my programs. OS X is designed for programs to run continuously.
    • You can run windows on it. I just bought VMware Fusion, which allows you to run windows as a seperate "window" within the OS. You're also able to natively boot into windows if you choose.
    • It's built like a tank. Compared to my plastic Dells, the MacBook's unibody structure is remarkably solid, yet thin and light.
    • The huge multitouch trackpad is fantastic.

    A few things that I don't like:
    • No dedicated "delete" key. Yes, there is a delete key, but it works as a PC backspace. You have to press "Control-delete" to have typical left-to right delete functionality.
    • The screen doesn't open to a fully flat, 180 degree position. Now I can't use my laptop in some positions.
    • Only 2 USB ports, and no VGA or HDMI output. With it's new mini display port, Apple makes you buy an adapter if you want to connect to an external display. (This is only for the laptops.)
    • OS X isn't as customizable as Windows. This may be a plus for some, because it makes the OS simpler. (However, I may have not figured everything out yet.)
    • Having to buy new--Mac--versions of software. This can be remedied by installing Windows for your old apps, but you still need a new version of Windows!

    Off the top of my head, these are my general impressions. Also, note that I didn't list "high price" as one of my dislikes (popularly cited as a gripe--and rightly so). I bought the MacBook on eBay with the 25% Live.com discount (which is currently at 8% I think) and my 10% paypal coupon. I ended up saving $300 on a brand-new system!


    Thank you for your insight.
     
  6. Tokyo Slim

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    I'm not using it for anything that is too intensive. From what I understand Macs are used by those in photography, movie making etc. Photography is something I am interested so I would like to take that into account when purchasing a laptop. My first HP has malfunctioned in four different capacities, and my latest has issues with the power supply. I've heard Macs don't get viruses and I have been having trouble with malware and things on this current PC as well.
    Honestly, any newish computer can do photo editing. I cannot think of a reason a Mac would be better than a PC. In fact, I can think of some ways that it would be worse depending on the software you want to use, the configuration of your laptop, and what peripherals you want to use. That aside, if you are one of "those people" who cannot figure out how to stop being infected by malware/spyware/viruses - by all means - switching to OSX will probably help. There ARE a few malware programs, exploits, and spyware for mac/OSX though, just not nearly as many. And OSX isn't inherently more secure than Windows in most situations in which you are being attacked from an outside source. If you should choose to run windows on it, you will be just as susceptible to those things, if not more so, than any other windows user (false sense of security). The computer itself is not magical. It makes me sad when people flee from windows to OSX because of ignorance of how the internet works and how to not get viruses. But hey, there's not much I can do about it.
     
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    I'm not so technologically impaired that I wasn't aware of this. I hear all this bable about N-videa g-force something or others, and apparently Macs are superior in this regard...

    Apple actually takes a long time to upgrade their hardware.

    They do not have superior video cards, they use the same one everyone else does.
     
  8. RedScarf7

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    Honestly, any newish computer can do photo editing. I cannot think of a reason a Mac would be better than a PC. In fact, I can think of some ways that it would be worse depending on the software you want to use, the configuration of your laptop, and what peripherals you want to use.

    That aside, if you are one of "those people" who cannot figure out how to stop being infected by malware/spyware/viruses - by all means - switching to OSX will probably help.

    There ARE a few malware programs, exploits, and spyware for mac/OSX though, just not nearly as many. And OSX isn't inherently more secure than Windows in most situations in which you are being attacked from an outside source. If you should choose to run windows on it, you will be just as susceptible to those things, if not more so, than any other windows user (false sense of security). The computer itself is not magical.

    It makes me sad when people flee from windows to OSX because of ignorance of how the internet works and how to not get viruses. But hey, there's not much I can do about it.


    Have you used both OS? I think it is safe to say you perfer Windows, what is your major reason for this preference??
     
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    There ARE a few malware programs, exploits, and spyware for mac/OSX though, just as many. And OSX isn't inherently more secure than Windows in most situations.

    (At the risk of coming off as a fanboy), as far as I know, this is simply not true. Although it has been demonstrated that OS X can be susceptible to viruses, none have shown up "in the wild"--yet.
     
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    I use a Mac because it's cuter than Linux.
     
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    until you realize how intuitive and simple the Mac OS actually is. After being conditioned to perform tasks a certain way on Windows, that is quite a shift.

    I always hear people say that and I just don't agree. Then again, I know my way around Windows pretty well.

    Two quick examples:

    1. I wanted to stop a program from running at startup. Why the hell do I have to go into the user account preferences to find that? I had to do a Google search for that.

    2. I had to install a bloody program to get my mouse to scroll one page at a time. How is this not a basic feature?

    Unless you're comparing the same processor and hard drive between Windows and OS X, that's hardly a valid comparison.

    Also, the ability to run programs continuously is hardly unique to a OS X. I have no issues doing so on Windows. Limiting factor is likely RAM.

    You don't need antivir on Windows. I ran it for years without and never had a problem.

    I do concede that for most people it would be a recommendation though and almost a need.

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    Other than those gripes I have with your post, congrats on your new computer. I'm not biased one way or the other and people should use whatever they like/want.

    I suggested OS X for my parents because I think it's a better fit for them than Windows in terms of what they use a computer for.
     
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    I use a Mac because it's cuter than Linux.

    Are you my sister? She loves her Mac cause "it's cute!"
     
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    Have you used both OS? I think it is safe to say you perfer Windows, what is your major reason for this preference??
    Wasn't directed at me but here goes: 1. Cheaper. Apple has huge markups and the notion (as evidenced by this thread) is that their hardware is better. Yes, the $2k computer is likely going to have better hardware than the $500 one but there are some more expensive computers out there that will more than match it. If building your own, this becomes even more apparent. My current machine can run OS X. It's possible through various means using specific hardware and I chose this hardware for that particular reason for my own personal satisfaction in getting it done. I installed OS X, ran it for a few months and then went back to Windows. I dual booted for a while but I formatted a while back and didn't bother installing Leopard. My computer cost me approx $1500 to build from scratch (previously using a laptop). The closest equivalent Mac was around $4k. 2. This is my biggest one - the options and customization of a PC. Out of the box, OS X might be better for most people than Windows. However, once I set up Windows how I like it and install the programs I want, I much prefer it to OS X. There are also some programs that I use and love that just don't work on a Mac and I don't want to dual boot or run them in a virtual machine like Fusion or Parallels. I can choose what hardware I specifically want in my machine and can upgrade it as I see fit. 3. Minor but the obnoxious, "superior" attitude of many Apple users and the idea that all things Apple are somehow inherently better than all else is a turn-off. This is obviously a subjective thing and is not pro-Windows or anti-OS X in terms of software platform but I can't deny that it exists.
     
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    (At the risk of coming off as a fanboy), as far as I know, this is simply not true. Although it has been demonstrated that OS X can be susceptible to viruses, none have shown up "in the wild"--yet.
    As far as you know, or as far as Apple has told you? Notice that I didn't say viruses. I said malware, exploits, and spyware. Over the years, several pretty nice pieces of malware have been written for OSX. As with the 98% of all the malware written for PC, you have to be an idiot and install it - which means that only computer illiterates generally get infected - but then essentially, there is no difference between that and pc, except your pool of available infections and also illiterate users is much less. Mac users tend to be less cautious because they believe themselves to be invulnerable, which is stupid. If you open email attachments or unverified program intallers, or visit porn pages and accept shady cookies from them, you deserve what you get. I suppose.
     
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    To make Tokyo Slim angry?
    I've been on a Mac for over 15 years and this is about the best answer I could come up with.

    I think my biggest complaint about having a Mac has been how web developers tend to make things PC-first, Mac-second (if ever) and thus I can't use a particular website, plugin, etc. But now that things have swung towards Intel for good I don't imagine being too bothered by having to switch over to Windows every now and again once I upgrade my G5.

    And yes, websites are my only complaint. Everything else (music, photo editing, video editing, word processing, etc etc etc) I can do with ease on this machine.
     
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    To make The Gods angry?

    FTFY
     
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    You'll pay a bit more for a Mac than a similarly equipped pc but I hope you already know that if you're considering buying one. If you're HPs keep failing, maybe it is time to consider another brand. I've heard many horror stories about Dell as well. My last PC laptop was a Fujitsu and I would highly recommend one. Probably one of the only laptops made in Japan. Most other laptops I see, including Apple, are made in China. I've had both Mac desktops and laptops. The hardware is very durable. I never try to convince PC users to switch to Mac, but if you're thinking about it already, I say go for it. Learning the OS will take a couple days to get used to, but it's pretty much the same thing as Windows.
     
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    but it's pretty much the same thing as Windows.


    *chokes*
     
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    The Mac vs PC arguement is the 21st century equivalent of "does God exist?"

    If you've never had a Mac and are interested in getting one, go ahead. If you hate it, just return / sell it and go to newegg.com and get a PC.

    There is no correct answer to "which one is better." This is because, like anything else in life, you have your own preferences and one might suit you better than the other.



    For me, I have both. Quad2.4, 8800gt, 4gig DDR3, Antec900 case PC (white boxed). And a two year old MacBook. And in my own honest and humble opinion, I prefer the Mac.
     
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    (At the risk of coming off as a fanboy), as far as I know, this is simply not true. Although it has been demonstrated that OS X can be susceptible to viruses, none have shown up "in the wild"--yet.

    Apple recently recommended that all Mac users start using anti-virus programs. I'm not sure why, but it was recently announced on AppleInsider.

    My two cents: Apple laptops are future-proofed in two ways. First, they perform great years after purchase. People still use aluminum PowerBooks today, and my MacBook still performs perfectly almost three years after purchase. Second, they have sick resale value and sell well on eBay.

    Also, I've personally had some very bad experiences with PC laptops, and I don't trust any PC manufacturers as a result. In general, I think the problem rests with how these companies fill their computers with useless software and third-rate components. Avoiding either problem requires hundreds of dollars in upgrades or tech support. You can avoid both of these problems by building your own PC, and its actually easier than it sounds.

    Anyway: Apple laptops and homemade PC desktops.
     

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