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Why no love for the windsor knot?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by AlmostSmart, Mar 31, 2011.

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  1. w.o.e.is.me.

    w.o.e.is.me. Senior member

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    I do the half windsor. It's what my dad taught me and it's never been a problem for me.

    stellar avatar.
    *wipes brow*
     


  2. MrDaniels

    MrDaniels Senior member

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    They are slick and make a statement, but have to be used in the correct proportion to the rest of the fit and with the appropriate collar.
     


  3. AncientSoul

    AncientSoul Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how you tie your FIH but if you loosen it where the small end is out, it will just unravel.


    I know that FIH is a self releasing tie. I highlighted the part in your quote that I didn't agree with. A Windsor knot is self releasing and a half windsor can also be self releasing (depending on where you start the loop in second stage).
     


  4. ALFAMALE

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    It depends on the tie/collar...
     


  5. Master-Classter

    Master-Classter Senior member

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    full windsors are often tied poorly, giving the general knot type a bad name.

    many ties are too thick to do a full windsor nicely, ie symetrical and a little full, but with a thick tie it ends up being huge (see first point)

    this forum is a little USA skewed so the FIH is preferred. Also works better with OCBD's.
     


  6. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    Because it's U - G - L - Y and it ain't got no alibi.

    look at you manton, getting all ghetto on mc
     


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    i think the windsor knot on a spread collar shirt looks very striking, always gets my vote
     


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    texas_jack Senior member

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    I only know 2 knots, 4inth and bowtie.
     


  9. Roger Everett

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    I've been a half windsor knotter all my life. Thought I suspect the FIH is most used because it supposed to be easier and a no- brainer. And a big plus for the FIH, is that it is uneven and non-symmetrical, so that, when leaning half over on the the bar rail late at night, it looks even.
    Though to open a can of worms. A lot of the pictures I see on this site of guys with spread or semi- spread collars, and the FIH tie knot, not covering the collar openiing, look crappy.
     


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    MBreinin Senior member

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    I will tie a half-windsor with a particularly wide spread collar, or a tie that ties a really skinny knot. I used to ONLY tie a Windsor before I came here.

    Mike
     


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    porcelain monkey Senior member

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    It boils down to personal preference, personal history, how you were taught to dress by your father or whoever - just like anything. There are those who think less of those who tie a Windsor knot. I am one of them.
     


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    I love the full windsor
     


  13. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    It boils down to personal preference, personal history, how you were taught to dress by your father or whoever - just like anything. There are those who think less of those who tie a Windsor knot. I am one of them.

    your sig has been waiting for this thread
     


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    Thin tie, narrow collar - FIH
    Thick tie, med collar - FIH
    Thick tie, spread collar - 1/2 windsor
    Thin tie, spread collar - full windsor
     


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    It was not until I hit Styleforum that I even learned to tie a four-in-hand. My father taught me how to tie a tie, and I always assumed he'd taught me the FIH, being a middle management type.

    It turns out, though, he had taught me the half windsor. I still favor it as my knot of choice. I really do think it's a nice knot.

    I do occasionally tie a FIH or a Shelby, however, depending on the tie and collar.
     


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