Why Lobb Paris Bespoke Is The $#!+

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  1. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Goon member

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    Those Lobb's are beyond nitpicking. Very handsome, both the sample and M's own. The heels are sublime...very old Jermyn Street even though made in Freedom.

    Looking at those Lobb soles, one brand reminds me of the same: Saint Crispin's...the same, mottled, irregular look. The Lobbs look like SCs without the pegged waist...the same absence of exaggerated (or if you will, artistic) treatment one might see, say, in G&G, but the same organic look.


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  2. Fade to Black

    Fade to Black Senior member

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    ahh Manton I'm jealous as hell, i'd kill for a pair like the black one you have!
     


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    I'm going to go against the consensus and say that I really don't see the appeal associated with the shoes. I will give you that the fit will be absolutely superb and spot-on, but beyond that, the look of the leather, the details, the sole/heel/waist treatments are not particularly drool worthy, anymore than what I can get for 1/7 the price.
     


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    IMHO the black one looks a lot better than the one posted ...
     


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    This is a spectacular post!

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  7. GeorgePaul

    GeorgePaul Senior member

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    Have these even been worn?
    Judging from the condition of the soles, no.
     


  8. RJman

    RJman Posse Member Dubiously Honored

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    So you post a picture of an old bespoke sample. Shouldn't you say Lobb Paris bespoke WAS the shit 50 years ago, then? Moreover, now that Philippe Atienza has left Lobb for Massaro, would Massaro now be the "the shit" and Lobb Paris in the shit?
     


  9. LabelKing

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    Shit has its own integrity.
     


  10. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    So you post a picture of an old bespoke sample. Shouldn't you say Lobb Paris bespoke WAS the shit 50 years ago, then? Moreover, now that Philippe Atienza has left Lobb for Massaro, would Massaro now be the "the shit" and Lobb Paris in the shit?

    I think that the best bespoke houses manage to "institutionalize" certain practices, traditions, aesthetics, etc. For instance, Tony Gaziano worked at Cleverley for a long time. Now he does not. The shoes he makes under his own name don't look like Cleverelys. Cleverley shoes still do, however.

    To me, the Lobb Paris house aesthetic is the perfect marriage of British technique and French refinement. Others -- Gomez in particular, but also some of Corthay's shoes (the non crazy ones) and Delos (from pics only, never visited him) -- make along the same lines. But Lobb Paris is the original, and still the best.

    However, as my shoes are now several years old and I have not ordered another pair ($$$), perhaps they have declined as you suggest. I don't know.
     


  11. spectre

    spectre Senior member

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    How many of you could tell the difference between those Lobbs and a pair of Loakes from 10 feet?. Be honest now.

    Yeah, yeah, I know quality etc etc, but....

    If they look like "perfection", should you be able to tell the difference without examining them or not?

    If a Loake lasts a dozen years or more, and I have some that have, and they are comfortable for you and look not a lot different at a glance, why do they get bagged so much here?
     


  12. Kuro

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    Judging from the condition of the soles, no.

    Shoes can be resoled.

    So you post a picture of an old bespoke sample. Shouldn't you say Lobb Paris bespoke WAS the shit 50 years ago, then? Moreover, now that Philippe Atienza has left Lobb for Massaro, would Massaro now be the "the shit" and Lobb Paris in the shit?

    I was wondering why they switched from appearances by Atienza to a local fitter in NYC.
     


  13. speedster.8

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    So you post a picture of an old bespoke sample. Shouldn't you say Lobb Paris bespoke WAS the shit 50 years ago, then? Moreover, now that Philippe Atienza has left Lobb for Massaro, would Massaro now be the "the shit" and Lobb Paris in the shit?
    When did he switch, has he had time to influence the collection? MENS selection @ Massaro Not exactly thrilling in terms of the few pictures on display. But maybe that is why the "needed" him? What is the price point on these shoes , comparable? tnx Speed
     


  14. whacked

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    How many of you could tell the difference between those Lobbs and a pair of Loakes from 10 feet?. Be honest now.

    When did Loake ever make shoes with shape that remotely resemble this?
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    [​IMG] The contours of the uppers on the brown pair, especially along the sides, are fabulous. I'm sure the black are as well, but can't tell from the pictures.

    Thanks for showing this fine example. Helps in judging what to look for in shoes.
     


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