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Why is my tie always drifting to the side?

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I do a normal four-in-one knot, and my ties always drift to the side. I don't have a picture, but it's like the tie isn't hanging straight down anymore, it's angled. I've had one person say it was tied too tight, but the problem still occurs after loosening it up a bit.

What's the deal?
Do I need to use a clip?
Perhaps some hot-glue?
 

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So this is a common problem with the four-in-one knot that can't be prevented? Ideally I'd like to be able to use the four-in-one knot if possible...

I'm adjusting the focus on my screen, that is a clip right
 

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Originally Posted by someoneNew
So this is a common problem with the four-in-one knot that can't be prevented? Ideally I'd like to be able to use the four-in-one knot if possible...

Don't pay any attention to the people who are claiming that this is an inherent problem with the FIH knot. Experience has shown that the tie will drift to one side north of the equator and to the other side when you are south. Importantly, the tie will drift more as you move away from the equator. The problem is easily remedied be leaning slightly toward the drift. This becomes noticably more difficult as you approach the arctic circle which explains why most Lapplanders stick to bow ties.
 

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Originally Posted by Rolo
Don't pay any attention to the people who are claiming that this is an inherent problem with the FIH knot. Experience has shown that the tie will drift to one side north of the equator and to the other side when you are south. Importantly, the tie will drift more as you move away from the equator. The problem is easily remedied be leaning slightly toward the drift. This becomes noticably more difficult as you approach the arctic circle which explains why most Lapplanders stick to bow ties.

Aha! Now I dont need to watch the way the toilet flushes to know which hemisphere I'm in.
Unless I can control the forces of nature looks like I need to get a clip.
 

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Originally Posted by Rolo
Don't pay any attention to the people who are claiming that this is an inherent problem with the FIH knot. Experience has shown that the tie will drift to one side north of the equator and to the other side when you are south. Importantly, the tie will drift more as you move away from the equator. The problem is easily remedied be leaning slightly toward the drift. This becomes noticably more difficult as you approach the arctic circle which explains why most Lapplanders stick to bow ties.


It's because the tie gets wider in the part that's wrapped around, so the FIH is inherently angled. There are cheesy plastic things you can buy that attach to a button on your shirt and go through the loop on the back of the tie. There are also less cheesy clip/chain things or full-on tie clips, which if you can dig the look, also have added bonuses (like keeping your tie poofed out like in an ad instead of hanging limply down). Or, use a half windsor, or just crank it down tight and offset it slightly to deal with the slant. Or start the pimp lean method.
 

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Looks like we have a new addition for our favorite insults list:
"Mr. Drifty Tie Guy".
That'll leave 'em in tears.
 

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Originally Posted by Rolo
The problem is easily remedied be leaning slightly toward the drift.
So, one wonders, is this how Steve B.'s metamorphesus began? With a drifting tie?
 

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I use an tie bar or collar bar on most days
 

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Originally Posted by Rolo
Don't pay any attention to the people who are claiming that this is an inherent problem with the FIH knot. Experience has shown that the tie will drift to one side north of the equator and to the other side when you are south. Importantly, the tie will drift more as you move away from the equator. The problem is easily remedied be leaning slightly toward the drift. This becomes noticably more difficult as you approach the arctic circle which explains why most Lapplanders stick to bow ties.

do I have to adjust for magnetic declination?
 

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Maybe experiment with the tension while tying the FiH knot. I don`t think it`s just a problem with the 4iH knot, it sounds like you`re tying it in a way that makes the tie point to the left.
 

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Originally Posted by Rolo
Don't pay any attention to the people who are claiming that this is an inherent problem with the FIH knot. Experience has shown that the tie will drift to one side north of the equator and to the other side when you are south. Importantly, the tie will drift more as you move away from the equator. The problem is easily remedied be leaning slightly toward the drift. This becomes noticably more difficult as you approach the arctic circle which explains why most Lapplanders stick to bow ties.

I'm killing myself laughing here...
 

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So everyone here uses tie clips or just doesn't use the 4-1 knot?
 

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