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Why don't people at SF like Hugo Boss?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Bentley, May 22, 2010.

  1. Bentley

    Bentley Senior member

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    George Costanza's mom won't ride in a german car, and I'm pretty sure she's not the only one.

    George Costanza's Mom????

    Who would have imagined she'd show up as a point of reference on SF?

    LMAO

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  2. Don Carlos

    Don Carlos In Time Out

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    As SF's current Jew In Residence, let me just say that it's ok to make fun of Nazis. It is, in fact, encouraged. People need to stop being so uptight about it.

    Besides, if we started boycotting everything with Nazi connections, we'd be avoiding half the brands/manufacturers in Germany. BMW made Nazi motorcycles. Mercedes made Hitler's personal automobile. Hugo Boss, as noted, made Nazi uniforms. Bayer Pharmaceuticals supported Dr. Mengele's experiments and is rumored to have co-sponsored nerve gas research. Etc.

    As someone else mentioned earlier, many of these companies have been around for hundreds of years, predating the Nazis, and basically had no choice but to continue production when Hitler came to power. The Nazis basically seized control of the entire country, and it's not as if the German private sector just shut down in that period.

    When we talk about how suchandsuch company "made _____ for the Nazis," it's a slightly misleading statement in most cases. These firms didn't leap up and volunteer their services out of some particular loyalty to the party. Volkswagen is the one possible exception I can think of, but even then, come on. Water under the bridge at this point.

    I suppose we should start boycotting Brooks Brothers because, at one point in time, the cotton in its shirts was probably picked by slaves?
     


  3. Professor Chaos

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    I won't wear anything by Hugo Boss. My grandmother was jewish, and lived in eastern europe during the holocaust (far enough east to have survived), but that has nothing to do with it.

    My wife knows a woman who survived Auschwitz, and was forced to sew nazi uniforms designed by Hugo Boss. My grocer is a holocaust survivor. Tattoos on his arm. The shame I would feel if he were to see me wearing a Boss suit like it's a status symbol and something to be proud of makes it impossible for me to consider buying one. I don't hate on anyone else who wears Boss, I just can't do it myself. For whatever reason, I don't feel the same aversion to other german companies, but there you go.

    Also, I'm not a fan of german tailoring. Especially how they do shoulders.
     


  4. Don Carlos

    Don Carlos In Time Out

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    Fair enough. For what it's worth, I love your forum name. Big South Park fan here.
     


  5. lasbar

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    As SF's current Jew In Residence, let me just say that it's ok to make fun of Nazis. It is, in fact, encouraged. People need to stop being so uptight about it.

    Besides, if we started boycotting everything with Nazi connections, we'd be avoiding half the brands/manufacturers in Germany. BMW made Nazi motorcycles. Mercedes made Hitler's personal automobile. Hugo Boss, as noted, made Nazi uniforms. Bayer Pharmaceuticals supported Dr. Mengele's experiments and is rumored to have co-sponsored nerve gas research. Etc.

    As someone else mentioned earlier, many of these companies have been around for hundreds of years, predating the Nazis, and basically had no choice but to continue production when Hitler came to power. The Nazis basically seized control of the entire country, and it's not as if the German private sector just shut down in that period.

    When we talk about how suchandsuch company "made _____ for the Nazis," it's a slightly misleading statement in most cases. These firms didn't leap up and volunteer their services out of some particular loyalty to the party. Volkswagen is the one possible exception I can think of, but even then, come on. Water under the bridge at this point.

    I suppose we should start boycotting Brooks Brothers because, at one point in time, the cotton in its shirts was probably picked by slaves?



    Great point made...Ethical investment was not a concept en vogue in Germany during the thirties..

    Big companies were chasing orders and the closer you were getting to the Nazis, the more money you were able to make..

    It would have been impossible for any company to refuse working for the government...
     


  6. MyOtherLife

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    I won't wear anything by Hugo Boss. My grandmother was jewish, and lived in eastern europe during the holocaust (far enough east to have survived), but that has nothing to do with it.

    My wife knows a woman who survived Auschwitz, and was forced to sew nazi uniforms designed by Hugo Boss. My grocer is a holocaust survivor. Tattoos on his arm. The shame I would feel if he were to see me wearing a Boss suit like it's a status symbol and something to be proud of makes it impossible for me to consider buying one. I don't hate on anyone else who wears Boss, I just can't do it myself. For whatever reason, I don't feel the same aversion to other german companies, but there you go.

    Also, I'm not a fan of german tailoring. Especially how they do shoulders.


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  7. RSS

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    SF doesn't like anything that's not a $5k Bespoke Rubinacci.(bought for $1k on FS forum)
    I love a bargain price ... but finding a bargain price on something I actually want is rare. So while I love a bargain ... I mostly like full price.
     


  8. ld111134

    ld111134 Senior member

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    Somehow, I see a "Downfall" parody here..."All you who have purchased Kiton, Brioni or bespoke leave now!"
     


  9. OxxfordSJLINY

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    SF doesn't like anything that's not a $5k Bespoke Rubinacci.(bought for $1k on FS forum) Everything else is trash, and needs to be treated with the disdain becoming of such pedestrian merchandise.
    Absolutely not true. Style forum (or, SF for short) also loves all other Italian bespoke tailoring (and far from just suits), especially the three Caraceni operations and the two Rubinacci operations (all of these tailoring operations get equal amounts of love on SF just as much as they are equally handmade). And, SF does not just love Italian bespoke tailoring in Italy but SF also loves all Italian bespoke tailoring in many other areas of the world (especially in New York City, New York, USA and Paris, France). SF also loves a lot of English bespoke tailoring (and, again, far from just suits), especially if it is Ozwald Boateng (but only those can tolerate his outlandish fabrics) and Andrew Ramroop/Maurice Sedwell (or AR/MS for short). Both of these tailoring operations (who are just as handmade as the three Caraceni operations and the two Rubinacci operations) get equal amounts of love (and just as much love as the five Italian tailoring operations mentioned above) from SF just as much as they are equally handmade. However, Ozwald Boateng (or OB for short), again, only gets this kind of love from SF members who can tolerate his outlandish fabrics (which, apparently, is 80% of OB's production and sales). Of course, SF does not just love a lot of English bespoke tailoring in England but SF also loves a lot of English bespoke tailoring in many other areas of the world (especially in New York City, New York, USA). All of the above regarding SF's tremendous fondness (rivaling, matching or maybe even exceeding Chris Tucker's Smokey characters tremendous fondness for that wonderful drug called marijuana in the movie Friday; cannabis, FWIW, very, very, very badly needs to be legalized worldwide ASAP!!!!! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG], but that is a whole other topic) for all Italian and a lot of English bespoke tailoring (and, yet again, far from just suits) is particularly true if the prices are multiple thousands of Euros (Italian), Pounds (English), Dollars (in this case, USA) and all other currencies. Everything else being trash, and needing to be treated with the disdain becoming of such pedestrian merchandise in the opinions of 80-95% of the members SF is absolutely 100% true, I'm afraid. [​IMG] However, I am not one of them. Off topic, but Friday (1995) is now just as much of a classic as or more of a classic than Caddyshack (1980) and National Lampoon’s Vacation (1983).
     


  10. CharlesAlexander

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    *bypasses the entire thread*

    Shit quality.

    I wasted a few hundred on a Hugo beater suit a while back that had a retail price of over a thousand. After 4 wears it started to bubble and the lapels started to curl up. I wouldn't pay 20 bucks for a Hugo suit now.
     


  11. OxxfordSJLINY

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    *bypasses the entire thread*

    Shit quality.

    I wasted a few hundred on a Hugo beater suit a while back that had a retail price of over a thousand. After 4 wears it started to bubble and the lapels started to curl up. I wouldn't pay 20 bucks for a Hugo suit now.


    Sorry to hear that, CharlesAlexander.
     


  12. -Norton-

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    George Costanza's mom won't ride in a german car, and I'm pretty sure she's not the only one.

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  13. politico

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    Absolutely not true.

    Style forum (or, SF for short) also loves all other Italian bespoke tailoring (and far from just suits), especially the three Caraceni operations and the two Rubinacci operations (all of these tailoring operations get equal amounts of love on SF just as much as they are equally handmade). And, SF does not just love Italian bespoke tailoring in Italy but SF also loves all Italian bespoke tailoring in many other areas of the world (especially in New York City, New York, USA and Paris, France).

    SF also loves a lot of English bespoke tailoring (and, again, far from just suits), especially if it is Ozwald Boateng (but only those can tolerate his outlandish fabrics) and Andrew Ramroop/Maurice Sedwell (or AR/MS for short). Both of these tailoring operations (who are just as handmade as the three Caraceni operations and the two Rubinacci operations) get equal amounts of love (and just as much love as the five Italian tailoring operations mentioned above) from SF just as much as they are equally handmade. However, Ozwald Boateng (or OB for short), again, only gets this kind of love from SF members who can tolerate his outlandish fabrics (which, apparently, is 80% of OB's production and sales). Of course, SF does not just love a lot of English bespoke tailoring in England but SF also loves a lot of English bespoke tailoring in many other areas of the world (especially in New York City, New York, USA).

    All of the above regarding SF's tremendous fondness (rivaling, matching or maybe even exceeding Chris Tucker's Smokey characters tremendous fondness for that wonderful drug called marijuana in the movie Friday; cannabis, FWIW, very, very, very badly needs to be legalized worldwide ASAP!!!!! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG], but that is a whole other topic) for all Italian and a lot of English bespoke tailoring (and, yet again, far from just suits) is particularly true if the prices are multiple thousands of Euros (Italian), Pounds (English), Dollars (in this case, USA) and all other currencies.

    Everything else being trash, and needing to be treated with the disdain becoming of such pedestrian merchandise in the opinions of 80-95% of the members SF is absolutely 100% true, I'm afraid. [​IMG] However, I am not one of them.

    Off topic, but Friday (1995) is now just as much of a classic as or more of a classic than Caddyshack (1980) and National Lampoon’s Vacation (1983).


    Friday rules.

    You're a genius
     


  14. Made in California

    Made in California Senior member

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    Friday rules.

    You're a douche. I think, or this might be some elaborate joke that I don't nderstand.


    He extrapolated on your point and made the statement more accurate.

    Don't you think?
     


  15. il_colonnello

    il_colonnello Senior member

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    As SF's current Jew In Residence, let me just say that it's ok to make fun of Nazis. It is, in fact, encouraged. People need to stop being so uptight about it.

    Besides, if we started boycotting everything with Nazi connections, we'd be avoiding half the brands/manufacturers in Germany. BMW made Nazi motorcycles. Mercedes made Hitler's personal automobile. Hugo Boss, as noted, made Nazi uniforms. Bayer Pharmaceuticals supported Dr. Mengele's experiments and is rumored to have co-sponsored nerve gas research. Etc.

    As someone else mentioned earlier, many of these companies have been around for hundreds of years, predating the Nazis, and basically had no choice but to continue production when Hitler came to power. The Nazis basically seized control of the entire country, and it's not as if the German private sector just shut down in that period.

    When we talk about how suchandsuch company "made _____ for the Nazis," it's a slightly misleading statement in most cases. These firms didn't leap up and volunteer their services out of some particular loyalty to the party. Volkswagen is the one possible exception I can think of, but even then, come on. Water under the bridge at this point.

    I suppose we should start boycotting Brooks Brothers because, at one point in time, the cotton in its shirts was probably picked by slaves?


    Thank god, one guy with a brain.
     


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