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Why do you buy used clothing?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Carey, Oct 23, 2006.

  1. Lysol

    Lysol Senior member

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    You are certainly not poor if you have to choose whether to go overseas or just to the Jersey shore for vacation. The racking up of consumer debt for clothes, cars, fancy restaurant meals, vacations, or whatever is unresponsible behavior.

    What I would like to know: if a garment (shoe, trouser, or suit) was made to fit someone else, then is it a fantastic coincedence if it fits the one who buys that item second-hand? What divine providence it must be to have the same stooped shoulders of the previous owner who could afford to have his garment made on Savile Row, and look I got it for just cents on the dollar.

    I guess you know what it feels like to walk a mile in another man's shoes. Does it ever hurt your feet?


    I'm not entirely sure where in my post I said I was, or even alluded to being, poor. However, neither my wife nor myself make the kind of money where we can justify spending retail for our rather expensive taste in clothing. It would be "unresponsible" (sic) to do so. Does that mean that we must be relegated to shopping at JC Penny's? Like I said, I rarely purchase used clothing, I more often than not just buy on sale, but I'm not above it. If you are, that's wonderful, I'm quite ecstatic for you.
     
  2. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What I would like to know: if a garment (shoe, trouser, or suit) was made to fit someone else, then is it a fantastic coincedence if it fits the one who buys that item second-hand? What divine providence it must be to have the same stooped shoulders of the previous owner who could afford to have his garment made on Savile Row, and look I got it for just cents on the dollar.

    I guess you know what it feels like to walk a mile in another man's shoes. Does it ever hurt your feet?


    Who is talking about buying used bespoke, other than you? I don't buy used bespoke. Have I missed part of the discussion, or is this just a strawman argument?

    A RTW Oxxford size 42 is a RTW Oxxford size 42, unless drastic alterations have been made. And I assume anyone who buys one would check to see if that were the case.
     
  3. Lysol

    Lysol Senior member

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    The running up of credit card debt in order to satisfy one's desires is a foolish endeavor. But is it not just as deplorable to have champagne tastes and a beer budget?
    If you live within your means to get the things you want in life how can it possibly be "deplorable"?
    No one who says they have to decide between a vacation overseas versus the Jersey shore is poor. Poor people don't get to go on vacation. Poor people don't have the luxury of Paypal.
    I believe simple mathmatics would illustrate that if I can obtain an item that costs $1,000 for the price of $200, that is $800 I have saved that I can spend on other things in life that make me happy. I'm still not entirely sure where this notion of "poor" entered discussion.
     
  4. Infinite42

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    You are certainly not poor if you have to choose whether to go overseas or just to the Jersey shore for vacation. The racking up of consumer debt for clothes, cars, fancy restaurant meals, vacations, or whatever is unresponsible behavior.

    What I would like to know: if a garment (shoe, trouser, or suit) was made to fit someone else, then is it a fantastic coincedence if it fits the one who buys that item second-hand? What divine providence it must be to have the same stooped shoulders of the previous owner who could afford to have his garment made on Savile Row, and look I got it for just cents on the dollar.

    I guess you know what it feels like to walk a mile in another man's shoes. Does it ever hurt your feet?


    At this point, the following statement of yours no longer applies: "Really, I just wanted to hear why someone will wear and even seek out used clothing."
     
  5. AlanC

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    At this point, the following statement of yours no longer applies: "Really, I just wanted to hear why someone will wear and even seek out used clothing."

    This entire thread is a troll. He's not been interested in the debate at any point.

    Carey = [​IMG]
     
  6. jml90

    jml90 Senior member

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    I'm 16 thus, my budget does not allow me to buy AEs at $2-300 dollars.
    I buy my AEs used on ebay for 1/10 of the price.
     
  7. Carey

    Carey Senior member

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    This entire thread is a troll. He's not been interested in the debate at any point. Carey = [​IMG]
    If you read carefully, I respond to a post, most of the time I do it in the fashion I have done now. Your attack is personal to insist that I am trolling. If you have a point to debate, please do so. Instead your post towards me are only judgemental. State your point. Also, you are not the voice for anyone else who posts. Again, state your point and let's debate.
     
  8. Lucky Strike

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    I guess you know what it feels like to walk a mile in another man's shoes. Does it ever hurt your feet?
    You shouldn't crticise anyone before you've walked a mile in their shoes? Well, by then, you're a mile away, and you've got their shoes. [​IMG] Edit: Who said that?
     
  9. lawyerdad

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    If you read carefully, I respond to a post, most of the time I do it in the fashion I have done now. Your attack is personal to insist that I am trolling.

    If you have a point to debate, please do so. Instead your post towards me are only judgemental. State your point. Also, you are not the voice for anyone else who posts. Again, state your point and let's debate.

    Alan has my proxy. [​IMG]
     
  10. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    If you read carefully, I respond to a post, most of the time I do it in the fashion I have done now. Your attack is personal to insist that I am trolling. If you have a point to debate, please do so. Instead your post towards me are only judgemental. State your point. Also, you are not the voice for anyone else who posts. Again, state your point and let's debate.
    His point is that you're trolling, and I agree.
     
  11. Carey

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    His point is that you're trolling, and I agree.
    Glad you agree, but you have nothing else to say? I don't care if anyone wants to buy used underwear or whatever. I find it interesting when someone who is a style forum member implies that buying clothes at retail is frivolous, and that the sartorial pursuit of clothing is somehow a habit (negative connotation) that is only justifiably supported in the purchase of used garments. It must be hard to live with oneself being so conflicted. It seems from what several have posted today about clothes, more specifically suits and high qulaity shoes, is that they think these things are niceties, not essentials, so get the best one can find and that best value is in used clothing. I think that mens' fashion changes frequently enough that something ten years old, looks ten years old - stylistically speaking. I just gave away two Hickey-Freeman suits I bought in the early nineties because the gorge was too low. Even Oxxford has updated their silhouettes. A suit from the early sixities is going to have very narrow lapels. Maybe someone will mistake it for Tom Brown. I take issue with anyone who says I am trolling. If you have any comment that adds to the discussion, please bring it.
     
  12. drizzt3117

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    Some of the more extreme posts are implying that purchasing lower quality products at retail rather than better products on sale is going to contribute to furthering mediocrity. This is potentially true hypothetically, but at the same time, if there aren't low and medium quality goods to compare high quality goods to, then what is your basis of comparison?

    There is no question that purchasing used clothing is going to increase your buying power, but then again it's certainly not for everyone. If you don't like the idea of purchasing used clothing, then don't. No one is stopping you. Clearly the urge to continue buying new and expensive clothing is what is driving the secondary market, as some people are selling the items to recoup a fraction of what they paid in order to either perpetuate the cycle or pay off debts. In any case, the beneficiary are those buyers who are able to purchase these barely worn items for pennies on the dollar.
     
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    I take issue with anyone who says I am trolling. If you have any comment that adds to the discussion, please bring it.

    Yeah, j, bring it on, buddy.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. pejsek

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    You know, Carey, you just seem to be looking for an argument. I don't think anybody has said that paying full retail price for new things is frivolous and ought to be discouraged. Most posters have been more accomodating of your phobias than is perhaps strictly necessary. The only one who seems to be conflicted is you. If you want to wear only new things and things that look so completely 2006, then please go right ahead. Forgive me for speculating, but looking at your posts together I can't help but think you are somehow deeply offended by the idea of people buying and wearing used clothes--it's dirty (what with those "boys" and all), looks dated, not fashionable, offends the established order of who should wear what, etc. I think you are wrong on each of these accounts--though I won't lose any sleep over it. Apart from everything else, old clothes are part of being well-dressed; nothing like throwing together different parts of the historical vocabulary to bring a look to life.
     
  15. Carey

    Carey Senior member

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    You know, Carey, you just seem to be looking for an argument. I don't think anybody has said that paying full retail price for new things is frivolous and ought to be discouraged. Most posters have been more accomodating of your phobias than is perhaps strictly necessary. The only one who seems to be conflicted is you. If you want to wear only new things and things that look so completely 2006, then please go right ahead. Forgive me for speculating, but looking at your posts together I can't help but think you are somehow deeply offended by the idea of people buying and wearing used clothes--it's dirty (what with those "boys" and all), looks dated, not fashionable, offends the established order of who should wear what, etc. I think you are wrong on each of these accounts--though I won't lose any sleep over it. Apart from everything else, old clothes are part of being well-dressed; nothing like throwing together different parts of the historical vocabulary to bring a look to life.
    What motivated me to start this thread was that I looked at the Sellers and Buyers forum. It struck me as odd to look at a suit modelled by the owner, and that someone thinks, "That is just what I have been looking for!" We have a thread dedicated to great finds. I have my own issues with used clothing and I choose only to buy new clothes. So I save or do without until I can get what I want - new. My good fortune is that I have enough clothes to suit my needs. My desires can wait. I don't think that everyone should ascribe to my esthetic, as you say. If you love celluloid collars and high-button shoes[​IMG] , I won't pass judgement on you. I may not like your look and you may not like mine, but we are free to do whatever we please. I was just enjoying myself today, and probably felt too free to reply to some posts on a thread I started. Please accept my apology if I went over the top.
     
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    1. If you could only afford say $20 for a shirt or $30 for a pair of trousers what would you buy? Would you prioritise your own perception of what is hygienic over what is stylish or good value?
    2. Do you have any other issues regarding hygiene and other people that might shed light on your attitude to used clothes or clothes from an uncertain provenance? Is this the only area where you feel that interaction with things other people have touched is unpleasant?
    3. Do you enjoy paying top dollar to feel like you are really getting the best?

    My point is that I think it is clear from the thread that you are the one that seems to have the problem: certainly no-one else objects to you buying new and only new. So in the interest of clarity, I'd like to hear the answers to the questions.
     
  18. Edward Appleby

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    I buy used clothes because it increases the quality/price ratio by more than tenfold, and wearing clothes that have touched someone else doesn't bother me. Period. I don't see why I need to provide any more reasons than those.
     
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    I don't mind suits, outerwear or accessories but shirts and shoes I take a slight aversion to. And of course, no mention is needed of undergarments.
     
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    I buy used clothes because it increases the quality/price ratio by more than tenfold, and wearing clothes that have touched someone else doesn't bother me. Period. I don't see why I need to provide any more reasons than those.

    How can you be sure? How do you know how the person before you took care of the garment?
     

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