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Why do people wear a shirt and tie with no jacket?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by truthhurts, Nov 8, 2004.

  1. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

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    MilanoStyle, If your jacket is so uncomfortable that you cannot sit down and do computer work or paper work without being distracted while wearing it, maybe you need a new tailor. I can't imagine the coats I wear being of better quality than those of somebody who styles himself "Milano Style". [​IMG]
     
  2. funkyprez

    funkyprez Well-Known Member

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    To the ones that detest this look, have you ever thought that not everyone is as privileged enough to own 1 suit, let alone several?

    As a fresh-out-of-college-grad, I wore shirt-tie, no jacket often. I was working in Beverly Hills at the time, it's hot enough where a jacket is unnecessary most of the time. To boot, I only had 1 suit (for my interviews) and 1 sport coat.

    I'm glad those days are far behind me now. But I would never look down on them.
     
  3. funkyprez

    funkyprez Well-Known Member

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    And for those that do not like pulled down tie/unbuttoned top button, this is also a matter of comfort.

    Yes, we live in an AC-world, but many of us do a lot of walking as part of our commutes. In NYC summers, after I've walked several blocks to catch a train, the last thing I would want is to have sweat stains on my nice dress shirts. Hence, I unbutton AND roll up my sleeves AND carry my jacket.

    You would detest me.
     
  4. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    I won't see a customer in shirtsleeves, even in the tropics in monsoon, but in my office I would never keep my jacket on. and I have been known to take my jacket off in a resteraunt, if it wasn't a formal occasion and I didn't think that I would run into customers.
     
  5. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I take my jacket off in my office every day. For important meetings, I put it on. In restaurants, my preference is to leave it on. If it's really hot in the restaurant, I will not hesitate to take it off, however.
     
  6. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Senior member

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    no, that's not the point. the point is I am used to wearing min. amount of clothing when I do computer work. I can go and on about impracticality on this. This sort thing is just preference, nothing to do with style, so do not tell me I need new tailor nor trying to be cute with sarcasm OK? To me, this is a same question as if someone ask me why I use fork instead of chopsticks at a chinese resturant. Well, I can use chopstick but fork is much easier to pick things up for me. Its my preference. I can use chopstick but I rather not. Same goes for not wearing jacket while I work at a desk. I can wear it, but I prefer without one.
     
  7. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

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    A minimum amount of clothing when doing computer work? That conveys up some curious images. Are you at your best hitting the ol' keyboard in the buff? [​IMG] Seriously, you didn't say it was a simple matter of preference. You said that wearing a suit coat seated at work would create such discomfort that you would be distracted from your work. To me, that says lousy fit. I don't seem to have this problem, and my wardrobe is nothing special compared to what many forum regulars have, I'm sure.
     
  8. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    (Phil @ 08 Nov. 2004, 06:42) I suppose you only wear brown suits in the "country", Â only wear black shoes after 6 pm, and never let the fairer sex see your braces, since that would be the lowest of the low in your mind.
    I put off my jacket, Â may be I should not because = I suppose you only wear brown suits in the "country" = correct Wear black shoes after 6 pm = correct but for suit, black shoes = always Never let the fairer sex see your braces = I show because I leave my jacket. Leaving my jacket make me break 2 rules....
    My dear sir, I am glad to hear that at least one of us knows that brown in the city is merde, that where one is, one should, in the evening, wear a black shoe seulement. Toujours, H.
     
  9. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    I'm trying to recall my experience in HK. I'd say that many did wear a suit jacket -- though natch. of tropical wool.
     
  10. My View

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    I am someone who is a little fussy about the way I dress (I believe most others on this forum are, though I suspect some would strongly object to my using the word "fussy" - you know what I mean) and I have this to say... In the area of dressing, as in many other aspects of life, there is often a need to maintain the fine balance between what is "ideal" and what is "practical". Â I do agree that people look better in jackets (presuming the jacket fits the wearer), so if I have a choice, I'd prefer to wear a jacket everyday - if not for the climate here in Singapore. It is not just the heat but it's combination with the humidity which makes wearing a suit outdoors impractical. Â Don't take my word for it. Â Visit my puny sunny island [​IMG] In Singapore, there are only a few groups of people who wear suits: 1) business travellers from another country on their first day of visit. 2) middle-level to very high-level Japanese executives - rest assured it's not a racist comment. Â It's a conclusion drawn from observation as I work in a building full of Japanese companies. 3) very high-level non-Japanese foreign executives who are chauffered around in their luxury sedans (by the way, do you guys know that car prices in Singapore are the highest in the world?) 4) people who work in (high class) hotels 5) bridegrooms on their big day [​IMG]
     
  11. Giona Granata

    Giona Granata Senior member

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    I don't give a damn how the majority of people will dress. I will dress my way; I will not dress T-shirt, bermudas and sandals because everyone in Piazza Duomo is dressing like that. I will take off my jacket in my office, but I will dress it on meetings and at restaurant. Said that, I'm happy to know that in France AC is not working properly; here in Italy it is working very well [​IMG]
     
  12. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Senior member

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    I am with Giona Granata.

    Wear the damn jacket if you want to. I choose not to when I work. Heck I even need to roll up my sleeves when I do computer work.

    However, I will wear jacket where ever formality needs to be kept.
     
  13. ernest

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    Paris is not so hot as Milano I guess....
     
  14. Giona Granata

    Giona Granata Senior member

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    No, it's not so hot, so you do not need repairing your broken AC; and you can always keep your jacket on.
     
  15. arvi

    arvi Senior member

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    BRAVO GIONA...SONO D'ACCORDO [​IMG]
     

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